<Your present allusion to Newton's and Einstein's theories as being "embedded" honors what I had been saying from square one>
Oh....... you like "embedded" better than "encompassed"??? You win.
< I said from the beginning that both theories of gravity were valid and simply observed the universe through different lenses>< In particular, I was making it clear that Einstein's theory of gravity, while more precise and reliable in extreme instances of theory, was no more precise or reliable in ordinary terms of existence.>
Fine, I don't get you 'lens' analogy... but maybe that's just me?
That still leaves us with the guts of my point that I've been arguing the whole time... "lens", "encompassed" or not:
Einsteins THEORY IS MORE PRECISE in ALL circumstances... it just isn't enough to be that important where velocity is small compared with that of light. In by "ordinary terms of existance, you mean making cars and all... that's fine, but that was never what we were talking about... agreement with experiments in a limited domain and to a limited degree of approximation is fine, but it doesn't mean it's as complete a theory in any domain... it isn't. AND, we've been talking theory the whole time... that's been the whole point. So Newton used to be thought of as "UNIVERSAL" as YOU described it, it is now recognized found to be useful in a limited domain and only to a limited degree of approximation. It HAD to give way relativity which utilize BASIC concepts of space and time NOT consistent with those of Newtonian mechanics. So any arguement that Einstein simply 'added' to, or extended Newton is incorrect...
Now futher... let's go to Quantum theory.
You said:
""There is nothing to indicate that. The laws of motion and gravity are Universal so far as we know. They are no more likely to be "encompassed" by quantum physics than quantum physics is likely to be "encompassed" by Newtonian laws. They are different things.""
That statement shows misunderstanding of the situation... There is no way Newtonian physics or laws can possibly encompass relativity, let alone Quantum Physics.
"Classical mechanics eventually gave way to quantum theory, which is very different in its basic structure, but which still contains classical theory as a limiting case, valid approximatley in the domain of large quantum numbers." - David Bohm
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