A Brinker whopper you asked for eh dija?
Ok Dija,
Here is an example where he was caught in a real WHOPPER and it shows that he is willing to fib when he absolutely knows he is not telling the truth but rather trying to HIDE the truth.
In the first post here under the alias that you and math agree is Bob Brinker he pitches his website and claims a STII (stanford telecom) mention on PBS was a "home run" and "like printing money"--nearly breaking his arm patting himself on the back for his stock picking brilliance.
Problem is as you will find out if you follow the discussion, Brinker picked the stock a few months before at MUCH HIGHER LEVELS and if you follow the exchange can see he continued to be dishonest even when CAUGHT and the facts presented. IT IS A WHOPPER , Dija. It shows a total willingness to lie to make himself look better than he is about material facts. ie tell a WHOPPER.
"To: DD who wrote (1154) 8/11/1997 11:24:00 PM
From: mister topes of 22410
Just visited Brinker's new website at www.bobbrinker.com and
learned Brinker will make his first 1997 public appearance
in Rochester New York on October 7th to benefit the Children's
Hospital and celebrate WHAM's seventy-fifth anniversary. Anybody
here planning on attending to find out what Brinker is saying?
Brinker almost never appears in person....very rare indeed.
Also noticed website headline calling attention to Brinker's
next national television appearance on Friday October 17
on the Nightly Business Report on PBS TV. Perhaps he will update
his buy recommendation on Uniphase UNPH in January at 45 (now 64)
and Stanford Telecom STII at 16 (now 25). Average gain on these
two home runs of about 50% since January. Its like printing money! "
Message 1950908
.Here someone who followed the stock closely immediately picks up on the spin.
"To: mister topes who wrote (1156) 8/12/1997 9:30:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005 of 22410
Don, and Stanford Telecom STII at 16 (now 25).
That is not true. Bob had a buy on STII at 28 in June of 1996. I know 'cause I am too bullish on this stock for about 1 1/2 years now and got excited when I heard Bob recommend it on NBR in June of last year.
-Mohan
Message 1952523
another person who knew the truth and that what Brinker's alias was posting was a lie chimes in.
To: mister topes who wrote (1156) 8/12/1997 9:39:00 AM
From: Loeber of 22410
"Its like printing money!" Hubris - Don."
Brinker who before beginning his posting career on SI had a discussion forum on AOL in the early days--talking about himself. :) Instead of coming clean "mister topes" tried to spin the conversation by claiming to have checked the transcript of the PBS show on AOL. Notice he conveniently doesn't address the posters problems with his claim that he had recommended purchase of this stock months earlier at much higher prices and it was still under water while he was claiming it was "like printing money". Sort of like Brinker bragging on QQQs going from 25 to 40--but ignoring the fact he had people plow huge amounts into them at 80.
"To: Cynic 2005 who wrote (1158) 8/12/1997 11:06:00 PM
From: mister topes of 22410
Based on your post I checked the transcript on the Nightly Business
Report page on AOL and confirmed my earlier comments. Brinker was
last on Nightly Business Report on PBS TV in January. He recommended
purchase of Uniphase at 45 (now 64 up 42% in six months) and
said Stanford Telecom was "on sale" and the stock was $16 adjusted
for the two for one split. Stock is now 25 for a 56% gain in six
months. Average gain for these two home runs is about 50%.
Brinker also predicted additional gains for the bull market and
they have developed as projected. Do not take my word for it.
Read the actual predictions as they appear in the Nightly Business
Report transcript posted on their AOL website for all to see.
Message 1958943
But the poster who knew this to be sleazy spin.
"To: mister topes who wrote (1167) 8/13/1997 9:11:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005 of 22410
In January 97 he reiterated his buy recco made on May 31st of 1996. No need to verify for. In january the stock was at 16 and on June 1st the stock was at 28. I know because I was long at both times and I have seen his May 31st program and read about his January appearance.
-Mohan
Message 1960824
"To: mister topes who wrote (1167) 8/13/1997 7:58:00 PM
From: Mark of 22410
Don,
You said:
"Read the actual predictions as they appear in the Nightly Business
Report transcript posted on their AOL website for all to see."
Can you furnish the url?"
OOPS, he's in trouble now. LOL
And after one guy failed someone found a transcript to the Kangas interview--notice that indeed Kangas asked Brinker about STII--Brinker sure didn't bring it up and Kangas described his PICK of STII on his last appearance at more than double what the stock was trading for now as a "clinker".
"To: Truman Bradley who wrote (1178) 8/14/1997 4:20:00 PM
From: Alan Whirlwind of 22410
These are the Brinker recs from January:
KANGAS: So you favor the small cap in the future?
BRINKER: Yes.
KANGAS: Over the large cap.
BRINKER: Especially now. The disparity between large and small cap is quite wide at this point, and I would I would look to include small caps here.
KANGAS: New suggestions?
BRINKER: Well, there's a proprietary technology company, Uniphase that has a technology that speeds the transmission of date with the use of fiberoptics. And Uniphase, I think, is going to make new highs this year. This stock was 60 a few weeks ago. It's trading at 45 now.
KANGAS: Symbol?
BRINKER: UNPH on the NASDAQ.
KANGAS: Okay. Anything else?
BRINKER: Well, last time we talked about Ultratech Stepper (UTEK). Now, here's a company that has a near monopoly on a unique piece of equipment that is used for MR thin film head manufacture. And I think Ultratech Stepper which was 25 on my last visit...
KANGAS: Now, 28 1/4.
BRINKER: It's 28 1/4. I think this stock will be in the 40s within a year.
KANGAS: Quickly now. You also gave this as the only clinker you had in that entire interview, Stanford Telecom (STII). It was at 55. It's now all the way down to 32. Out of it?
BRINKER: I would say no. I would say the stock is attractive here. It's on sale here, a very technology rich company, broadband wireless, personal satellite communications, cable modems. I think the stock's a buy.
(I pity the poor sap who picked up that last one at $55 on a previous rec. That's the trouble when you're a small fry and can only nibble one at a time. Probably why Brinker focuses on Funds instead of individual picks)"
Message 1973242
Now Dija here is the guy you always claims spins a little and seemed to indicate would never tell a "whopper"-- at work. He's been caught red handed, but instead of being honest, continues the charade.
"To: Alan Whirlwind who wrote (1179) 8/14/1997 11:50:00 PM
From: mister topes of 22410
Your post is very misleading. Brinker recommended Stanford Telecom
on Nightly Business Report in January at 32 before the stock split
two for one for a split adjusted recommended price of 16. The
stock is now 24 for a 50% gain in the six months since the January
recommendation to buy at 16. Also, Uniphase is now 66 for a gain
of close to 50% percent since the January purchase recommendation
at 45. The combination of Stanford Telecom and Uniphase has
risen about 50% during the six months since the January recom-
mendation. Also, UTEK is still regarded as attractive on weakness
below $24 and is currently trading in the 26-27 range. Surely
Brinker will be asked to update these recommendations when he
returns to national television on PBS on October 17. "
Message 1976201
One of the problems with this guy is that he always thinks he is smart enough to fool everyone with his glib spin. It is a huge problem for those foolish enough to trust him. Time after time, the spin comes out simply to make Brinker look good, not to help those who foolishly await his advice. But some were not fooled.
"To: mister topes who wrote (1182) 8/15/1997 12:24:00 AM
From: Surfer of 22410
Don,
< Your post is very misleading. Brinker recommended Stanford Telecom on Nightly Business Report in January at 32 before the stock split two for one for a split adjusted recommended price of 16. >
Read the transcripts again. Kankas clearly says in the interview that
Bb's STII is "clinker". He recommended it first at $55 (pre-split).
Then, again in January re-recommended it at $32 (pre-split). So,
Don, if you choose to ignore the first time recommended price, then
please say so that you're following it only from January time frame.
Please do not twist the BB reocrds. BB is an honest man and he won't
like it.
Also, if any one followed UNPH and STII will know the bid/ask spread.
It's a joke. It used to be an average of 5% or so. UNPH is to be
3000 shares a day volume until few months back. I wish BB doesn't
recommend low volume no P/E stocks. It's kind of funny when he puts
down Coke's P/E as high, at the same time recommends UNPH with negative P/E. BB is the master of great market calls and a superb
educator of investments topics. I listen and respect his courageous
wisdom on predicting the markets. I wish I followed his market calls
instead buying UTEK and selling at a loss, when it went from $21 to
$14, back to $21, etc.
Message 1976399
To: mister topes who wrote (1182) 8/15/1997 9:03:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005 of 22410
Don. with all due respect, you are the one who are misleading this thread. Brinker first recommended STII at 56 on May 31st 1996 on NBR. In January he reiterated his buy recommendation.
-Mohan
Message 1977594
To: Investor2 who wrote (1180) 8/15/1997 9:04:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005 of 22410
I2, FYI, here is a link to Stanford Telecomm thread on SI.
exchange2000.com
Regards.
"mistertopes" spin that served nobody's interest other than Bob Brinker's raised an eyebrow.
"To: mister topes who wrote (1182) 8/15/1997 9:04:00 AM
From: Charles Webster of 22410
don lane are you the captain of the starship?"
Now again instead of coming clean or admitting the now obvious, our "mistertopes" tries to obfuscate the discussion with a bogus claim regarding splits in the stock. The stock did spit but the no one was confused by the facts and this pathetic attempt to continue the WHOPPER about his "home run" and "like printing money". The stock was down huge from his previous rec months before when Kangas asked him about his "clinker" and was still underwater from his initial recommendation when he tried to brag on it.
"To: Cynic 2005 who wrote (1184) 8/15/1997 11:58:00 PM
From: mister topes of 22410
Your post is totally incorrect. Brinker's initial STII recommendation
on TV was at 28 adjusted for the two for one split earlier this year.
He again recommended the stock in January at 16 adjusted for the
same split. He never recommended the stock at 56 because it never
has traded at 56. Look it up. The all time record price is only
32! His January recommendation at $16 is up 50% in six months.
All stock prices must be properly adjusted for splits in order
to be correct. By not correcting STII for the two for one split
you are ignoring the fact that all shareholders now hold two
shares for every share purchased before the split. STII split two
for one earlier this year thereby adjusting the price two for one."
Message 1983700
His attempt to "baffle em with bs" failed to impress the guy who knew it was stinking to high heaven.
"To: mister topes who wrote (1195) 8/16/1997 12:13:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005 of 22410
Don, you must have had some dope. OK, I was using pre-split (56) and post-split (28) prices losely.
techstocks.com
techstocks.com
No confusion on those two posts. Only in the following post I mentioned the pre-split price.
techstocks.com
Pick your calculator and press 56 then the divided by button, followed by 2 and then = button. You will get 28. Get it?
As far as I am concerned I know exactly what I am talking about. My point is, you are touting as though Bob first recommended STII at 16 (post split) and helped you print money when it ain't so! You know and this thread knows and even Bob knows what I am talking about. Go to the Stanford Telecomm thread and see my contribution on that thread. Then tell me if you can still think that you can teach swimming to this fish. Now, stop this BS.
BTW, thank you for educating me on how stock splits work, your highness!
-Mohan
PS. Of course I am pi**ed off. Rather than admitting a mistake gracefully you chose to attack my credibility. "
Message 1983755
So there you have an example of a whopper and an attempt to push until many believed the whopper in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. An honest person would never had made the claim. Any sane and rational person who is not delusional would have seen the implausibility of their argument and how deep they were digging the hole. The guy you have such admiration for seem to believe that he can make any claims for past recommendations or hide any past recommendations and just babble and people will accept it as the truth.
That is an example of a WHOPPER Dija.
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