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Politics : Polite Political Discussion- is it Possible? An Experiment.
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To: Brumar89 who wrote (460)8/2/2006 7:12:35 PM
From: RambiRead Replies (2) of 1695
 
That most basic fact that you find compelling doesn't seem so to me. The male/female union is biological. It's survival of the species. It is the practical way to ensure your continuing line. The formalization of the union in history was more for the attaining of economic strength, the merging of powerful families. Women were chattal.

Same sex unions were actually formalized in Greece and I believe Rome also sanctioned them. While they didn't call them marriages, I would wonder if their idea of same sex love wasn't far closer to our ideas of love in marriage now than their idea of marriage would have been, since that was still very practical.

Marriage has never had a constant face. It transforms with the needs or demands of a society. In a way (ironically I guess for you), the final achievement of equality for women, the idea of marriage as a partnership based on love and shared commitment not just on economics or carrying on the family name, have moved us closer to the need to expand the definition. I don;t know if it will happen, but I think that using your "always has been" could easily be eviscerated by someone with historical knowledge and more indepth exploration of the evolution of marriage.
As for the nose in the tent, well, I suppose we will have to examine them all. I'm not much of a set in stone person-- or rather, I could be, and work hard not to be. I appreciate your taking the time to express how you come to your opinions. They aren't leaving me totally cold by any means. I think your ideas resonate with many.
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