Fascinating. 1.I fail to see how those quotes really support your position. As I said before, I fail to see how Pelosi is any more self serving than any other politician, and I'm not sure why you think she is dishonest. She has a different POV from you, but I suspect she believes in it. As was pointed out to me yesterday, as long as people believe what they take for the truth, it really isn't dishonest, even if they are incorrect. Right? And of course in this case incorrect is usually a matter of the way we see things.
I liked this quote:
""Every American is indebted to our troops for their bravery, their patriotism,
and the sacrifice they are willing to make for our country. Just as our soldiers
pledge to leave no one behind on the battlefield, we must leave no veteran
behind once they come home."
2.I'm not sure what uncivil quotes have to do with anything. Was there a point to that? Should I now bring up all the uncivil quotes of republicans? That seems a bit off topic. And what on Earth does the webring have to do with Pelosi? Did you think she was involved in the webring or something?
And finally 3. the fact that everyone was wrong about WMD doesn't excuse anyone. It makes them all a bunch of fools- but hardly means they were dishonest if they actually believed the information about Saddam. Believing bad information, especially when the information presented has been gathered and presented in such a way as to encourage only one conclusions, is really only evidence of gullibility, at most. Now once one finds that one has been fooled the question then becomes, do you continue to defend the bad information, and your bad decision based on it, or do you change your mind. I would opt for the latter, myself. It's hardly dishonest to have been for the Iraq war- it was a foolish position, imo, but not a dishonest or self serving one. I do think the people who failed to follow up on leads about Saddam that conflicted with the prevailing view of his weapons programs and the situation in Iraq, did this country a tremendous disservice. They may have been self serving- knowing, as they probably did, that their careers depended on presenting "acceptable" information that supported the administrations goal, namely to go to war with Iraq.
As I said earlier, your POV about who is dishonest and self serving is really a function of your politics, and has very little to do with objective facts. There are some dishonest politicians out there to be sure- just look around for those folks up on criminal charges. I'd start with them, if I were looking for dishonest folks.
Big sigh right back at you. |
