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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: sylvester80 who wrote (199570)8/27/2006 12:39:54 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
The "right idea" was SECULAR IRAQ. Look what Iraq is now. A religious fanatic playhouse. Not unlike that evangelical right wing Christian U.S. that you and your neoCON ilk screwed it up into.

I've heard it said that a Communist is nothing more than a liberal who's in a hurry.

That certainly seems to fit your concept of the "right idea"...

If you had an ounce of brain you would face up to facts and admit that the separation of church and state was the right idea of our founding fathers.

And likewise, if your concept is "Freedom FROM Religion", then you have NO IDEA what the founders of our country had in mind.

They believed in Freedom FOR Religion in a nation where checks and balances prevented any particular religious faction from attempting to prevent people of other faiths from practicing their beliefs.

AND, it may surprise you, the very concept of Separation of Church and State was derived from Freemasonry, of which many of our FFs were prominent members. Freemasons are "deists", requiring the belief in a supreme being, but never requiring their members to be part of a particular religion. In fact, Muslims can become Freemasons.

And since they were constantly persecuted by the Church of England, the Catholics, and certain Protestants, the Masons believed that a clause in the constitution was necessary for people to have the freedom to practice their faiths.

This is from an Atheist site, btw:

Even though each member of Freemasonry must assert his belief in a Supreme Being, no one must question his idea of a Supreme Being. Revealingly Mason lodge meetings did not allow the discussion of religious beliefs, nor may any member try to persuade any other Mason to his point of view or creed.

Not coincidentally, the first American government once practiced separation of church and state in the line of Freemason tenets. Sadly, most American religious believers fail to see the importance of this separation (some even deny it ever existed!), thinking that by forcing religion on society they act against unbelief, but it will eventually end up hurting their own religious practices while, ironically, it won't faze atheism in the least.


nobeliefs.com

And your boy, Saddam, outlawed Freemasonry, declaring it a Zionist plot?

Hawk
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