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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Elroy who wrote (199797)8/28/2006 8:37:57 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
The country should be renamed to have inclusionary meaning rather than exclusionary meaning (Israel is a homeland for Jews, the country should be a homeland for all the involved parties). And in the country all religions/ethnicities should be equal. No one has to leave. Palestinians get their right of return. Israelis get to stay, but lose their "Jewish homeland" since it's actually a shared land.

Gosh, and we can all get along and sing and dance the hora together. Whoops, no, not the hora, too ethnic, we'll have to find some other dance, lol. Sounds so sweet--"all relgions/ethnicities should be equal." Back in the 40s, that option was bandied about, but neither the Jews nor the Arabs wanted it--hence the two state solution to the problem. Indeed, the British essentially adopted your option for a number of countries in Africa--I'm sure neolib, if he's still reading the thread, can give us more details about the disasters that ensued from that lovely little experiment. For one of the biggest disasters, google "Biafra famine".

That's what we have done for the Indian population. The Indians are on reservations by choice, if they want to integrate into American society they are citizens and free to do so. See the difference?

Um, actually, in essence we've adopted a solution analogous to the two state solution for Native American tribes in this country as well. First we did a reservation system, basically giving Indians land that no whites wanted, and if whites changed their mind, then the Native Americans were kicked off of that land and given other land--that no whites wanted (try googling Sioux and the Black Hills in the 19th century for one example). Then, in 1887, the reservation system was abandoned, because whites decided that, really, there was very little that they didn't want, so they disbanded the reservations, gave each individual Native American 140 acres, and auctioned off the rest to whites who wanted to buy it. Millions of acres of surplus land was sold to whites, gosh what a surprise. And did everyone then live happily ever after, with each Indian family on their 140 acres? Well, no, the tribes wanted the reservation system back. They eventually got it, as the govt eventually agreed that the 1887 act was racist and theft. Millions of acres of land was shifted back to Indian tribes, where they have sovereignty. But if you think that Native American tribes think that they have a good deal, think again.

Your "solution" will set up a civil war that will make what is happening in Iraq look like a Sunday walk in the park.
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