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Politics : Polite Political Discussion- is it Possible? An Experiment.
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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1220)8/30/2006 10:56:33 PM
From: RambiRead Replies (2) of 1695
 
YOu are missing my point- which was that some of those decisions that resulted in "poverty" were initially driven by a reaction to that type of patriarchy. Until both sides of the equation can readjust to a new form of mutual responsibility we are stymied by the current imbalance- by the type of thinking in your post. Of course women were strong- but only in spite of, not because, it was a defined part of the relationship.

I am trying to find a way past your terms. They have served their purpose and are too heavily laden now with emotional baggage, a moral tone that no longer really resonates.

We admire those women; we do not want to be them. We see them as pioneers, but only in the sense of fighting the male dominance and succeeding in the face of societal
opposition.

Traditional morality etc are hot button words because they carry the freight of the patriarchal family which just doesn't work anymore, much as you may want it to. We have to deal with the realities of today, but still meld them with the important factors-- that children need stability and love and family.

I am not fighting your values, Brumar. They are how I have lived my life and raised my family. But I am not clinging to an outmoded form of them. I recognize the need for redefinition to allow them to move forward.
I hope that makes sense.
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