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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: jttmab who wrote (201370)9/5/2006 5:16:38 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Kissinger and Nixon were your boys.

They weren't my "boys". Anyone claiming to be "my boys" would have recognized that failing to confront totalitarian aggression was the imperative, so long as the people being targeted are willing to continue the fight.

They certainly should not be used as "pawns" to be bargained away in some Machiavellian chess game. If anything, that violates the values embodied within our constitution and creates far more "blowback".

Reagan cut and run when the Marines were attacked in Beirut.

Yep.. and I think it was because he succumbed to pressure from the democrats, especially Tip O'Neill.

Previously, Reagan had vigorously resisted congressional pressure to withdraw the Marines, so his announcement took Washington by surprise.Given little warning of Reagan's decision, Britain and Italy announced their own plans to withdraw peacekeeping troops from embattled Lebanon.

eightiesclub.tripod.com

And what IS your obsession with Grenada? Their dictator, Maurice Bishop, who took power in a coup in '79, was killed by some of hard-liner rivals and there was a perception that US citizens were at risk.

We invaded, killed a bunch of Cubans working to expand their airfield so it could handle soviet bombers, and returned the country to democracy.

Can you find many Grenadians who long for the times of Maurice Bishop?

And btw, it wasn't just Reagan's decision to invade Grenada. He had the support of the Organization of Eastern Caribbean states:

Eugenia Charles became Prime Minister when her party won elections shortly after Dominica gained full independence from British rule in 1979. She became more widely known to the outside world during the US invasion of Grenada in 1983, when, in her role as chairman of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States (OECS), she appeared on television with Ronald Reagan to offer her support.

en.wikipedia.org

en.wikipedia.org

Put southeast Asia through decades of war and you'll end up with a Khmer Rouge.

Oh.. they'll just pop in out of thin air, right? Nothing to do with 30,000 NVA troops advancing upon Phnom Phen in 1970 just because the Cambodians people demonstrated and burned their embassy.

Nothing to do with Pol Pot increasingly being supported by Mao, and the Vietnamese, increasingly supported by the USSR, fighting one another over control of Cambodia?

en.wikipedia.org

No, it all is the responsibility of the United States...

The Prime Minister of Lebanon now claims they will be the last Arab country to ever sign a peace agreement with Israel.

So long as they don't fling rockets, or initiate hostage taking raids, across the border, Israel could probably care less.

Al Qaeda leadership is in Pakistan where UBL has a 65%+ approval rating.

And golly.. is that the fault of the US too?? Or did Mr. Ahmadinejad direct those AQ leaders (OBL's son, Sa'ad) to go to Lebanon??

What was Mr. Sa'ad Bin Laden, heir apparent to Al Qai'da, actually doing in Iran, jttmab?? Why would a Salafist/Takfirist terrorist be taking sanctuary in a Shi'a dominated country?

Hawk
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