You should have thought of this back when you were so gung ho for starting something that the American people would never stand to finish.
Is that something particular to this war, or is that just the nature of American society?? It's not a secret that Americans, as a whole, like quick, "kick their butts and bring the boys home" wars.
It wasn't the Democrats who gave aid and comfort to the other side. It was the idiots who got us into an unwinnable war who made it obvious to all how weak we are.
That's just the point.. For people like you, EVERY WAR is unwinnable. That's your excuse for not being able to present a better strategy than the current admininstration is following. You don't even want to make the attempt!!
Every human conflict has a solution, if all parties can be made to recognize some point of mutual benefit and compromise. And sometimes that point is arrived at voluntarily, via diplomacy, or it requires coercive measures.
And weak? We're hardly weak.. We're just not willing to bring all of our resources to bear (like full mobilization and a draft) to fight this limited war.
And for someone like you to make this claim indicates you fundamental perspective.
Gosh, think we could scare Iran into not developing nuclear weapons now?
I don't know.. maybe we should have considered that 18 years ago when they first started violating the NPT.
It wasn't that long ago that you were crowing over Libya giving up the bomb and saying that the others would knuckle under soon.
I don't recall saying that other's would "knuckle under soon". But I do believe that catching Libya red-handed and persuading them to renounce their nuclear program was a true victory. Do you think it was a defeat?
I'm sure that Hitler could not have said it better in that bunker of his back in the spring of 1945.
I'm sure that FDR was saying the same thing. And so was Churchill.. Leaders are supposed to say things like that, especially when setbacks occur. Would you prefer that your nation's leader say "We must be wishy-washy and chaotic"?
Could have done this from 30,000 feet if we'd waited.
Uh hello??!! Assassinate Saddam and then leave Iraq in far greater chaos that has already been experienced?
Greeeaaaat strategy... Just what one would expect from someone like you...
Again, wishing for something that we do not have the tools to provide.
So are you saying that the formation and maturing of democracy within the US was merely a "wish"?
Because prior to the American Revolution there was very little human experience with the concept of democracy. We made up the rules on the fly, and with considerable turmoil and internal strife.
Every journey has to begin with a map and the individual taking the first step, and then following with the next... They US has provided the map to the Iraqis, and is even standing by to act as a guide. But it is up to them to take the necessary steps.
I know you'd like to just "snap your fingers" and make democracy happen overnight.. (actually, I don't know if I should be so sure of your belief in democracy).
I told you that Iraq had borders longer than Vietnam and that their people would be quite hostile to us, and that our country had enemies along those borders. I told you that they would snipe at us and sabotage oil production, and that our allies would abandon us (just like they did in Vietnam) as the cause slowly became more obviously hopeless.
And how is this any different that Afghanistan? But were you against overthrowing the Taliban? Is there STILL insurgency in Afghanistan?
I don't believe I've EVER stated that violence would ever completely cease in these countries. It would be fantastic if peace "broke out" all around the world.. but that's just not realistic. And that's not ever been my expectation in defining the term "victory".
My idea of victory is the creation of a fledgling democratic state that can defend itself against Islamo-Fascist and secular enemies in the region (primarily Syria and Iran).
My idea of victory is to maintain a forward defence of the United States that keeps the enemy focused on defending their "home turf", while continuing to thwart any plans to attack our own.
My idea of victory is motivating Arabs to recognize that they are in a civil war with the militant extremists in their religion. I want muslims to have no choice but to recognize that Islamo-Fascists are just as willing to target muslims as they are Westerners and that we're not going to just left them remain indifferent.
My idea of victory is denying the Islamo-Fascists the ability to tap the tremendous wealth of Iraq's oil to fund their Islamo-Fascist evangelical efforts.
Those are my criteria for victory Bilow.. pretty much in order of priority. Now what are yours??
Oh.. that's right.. you don't believe we can ever be victorious against terrorism.. We're just supposed to bend over and take it.. Well, buddy.. you can have my ration of KY.. I'm sure you'll find a use for it.
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