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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All

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From: Cogito Ergo Sum9/9/2006 2:31:45 AM
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Random Thoughts... ideas, observations, impressions, replies and mostly just stuff floating through my mind as I take a partial SI Hiatus...

Nobody's right .. if everybody's wrong...
For What It's Worth.. The Buffalo Springfield...

I believe that Israel has a right to exist.... Jews have been in the area for thousands of years... but only had formal states for short periods... This land is their land as much as anyone’s..

Who are the Jews ? Biblically descendants of Shem ? ... Gee same as the Arabs... and a host of others... Both Jews and Arabs trace themselves back to Abraham/Ibrahim
Instead of Shem they are all acting like Shemp... that erstwhile 4th stooge... then again they were pretty violent too those stooges so maybe this is all appropriate after all...

So...Who are the Jews.. ? I've seen so many diverse looking Jews' that I thought I'd do some digging...
Well we have Ashkenazi, the majority and the most influential in the modern Diaspora... Likely the ones upon whom most North American stereotypes are formed.......

So...Who are the Jews.. ?
Well we have the Sephardim.... Those traditionally having settled in Iberia.. (Spain/Portugal) and greatly influencing the Mediterranean... Did well under Muslim domination of Iberia...

So...Who are the Jews.. ?
Well we also have Jews that never left the Middle East... Mizrahi ..

I know Jews that look like stereotypical Arabs... and those that are white ... not eastern looking at all...
Tay-Sachs Disease...Occurs basically in Ashkenazi Jews... seems rather a diverse group to me...

Arabs.. Exactly who are True Arabs... (well close to ethnically pure as I can tell)
Berbers... ?? No
Tuaregs...?? No
Levantines (Those occupying the Levant... One of the most conquered over places on earth... ) a melting pot ethnic groups including Arabs (the real ones from Arabia) and God knows who else..., Persians, Assyrians, Jews, Romans, etc etc......

Well let's start with the Arab league ... That's got to be made up of Arabs...right ?
Maybe Syria has a point wrt a Greater Syria...? The current British et al.. constructs of all those little countries... to abet Israel’s survival and other political goals..
Egyptians ? Well no not really... They are another mixed group... Arabs sure didn't build the Pyramids and Sphinx
Libyans ? Naw.. Really mostly Berbers (and many smaller minorities) but mostly assimilated into Arabs culture... Yes who are Arabs...
Algerians ? Another mixed bag like Libyans... Overpowered Berbers...
Moroccans ? Again a mixed bag....
Tunisia ? More Arabised ...Berbers...
The Sudan ? Arabs with Nubian (Kushite) roots and non-Arab Black Africans--with hundreds of ethnic and tribal divisions. So another real hodgepodge of pretend Arabs...
Somalia ? Well they don't even pretend to be Arabs... but they are members of the Arab league... BTW they have a clan-based society... which likely explains why they have no effective federal government...
Mauritania ? Well they are mostly black or mixed black/Arab/Berber... and the remainder mixed Arab/Berber..
Djibouti ? Well who cares ... but they are mostly blacks... Somali, Afars etc... but they are in the Arab league.... < 3/4 million souls
Comoros ? OK I didn't know this was a country... but they are in the Arab league... more of those 'black' Arabs :O) < 3/4 million souls
Jordan and Lebanon ? well more Levantines...
Iraq ? Well at least they are about 80% Arabs... and they get along so well ....
Oman ? OK Mostly Arab...
UAE, Kuwait huge non-Arab populations to do the work.. (sounds like trouble)
Saudi Arabia... Yes well 80% Arab but WOW 20% others... to do the work I suppose...
Qatar... Predominantly NON Arab (trouble ?) and hence non citizens... but then again very Liberal by Arab standards...
Bahrain ? 1 3rd non-Arab.. again, workers... (more future trouble)
Yemen... FINALLY !!!! Mostly real Arabs... (once had a large Jewish population)

So the war between the Arabs and the Jews... it's all perfectly clear.. right ?

Europeans are still meddling... and the US...

Iraqi war a scam IMO.. Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinians, Israel, Taliban et al are where the focus should have been...if we really were waging a war on terror...as in terror against the West...
what a colossal waste of lives, money and time... The only terror in Iraq was in..... well IN Iraq... and we had one big terrorist Saddam without the wherewithal to do anything to the West...

How come Afghanistan is such a mess still and the 'Coalition of the blankety blank' went to Iraq.. SCAM ?! OIL ? Geopolitics..? Misguided neocon Manifest Destiny dogma ?. We hear a lot more about Afghanistan now that Canada is more prominent there ....

Does the West (US and Britain esp) really want peace in the Middle East ? Hard to believe that IMO... I think Israel as a western proxy as much a pawn as Arab states..

Arabs still suffer from internecine warfare... dark ages. for them .. still...
Islam entered it's Dark Ages in the 1300's... 600 years after inception... Christianity in the late 400's with the fall of Rome... Crusades... Internecine rivalries resulting in warfare started to wane.. Islam Dark Ages.,.. Internecine rivalries.. predominate... still today...

Islam the problem ?... no more so than Christianity was,.. Islam has not caught up.... So yes in that sense it is a problem...

Americans much more fundamentalist and politics greatly influenced by religion... quite different from Canada...

Tomatoes and Dahlias are boffo this year... Corn bolted and sucked...
Huge Crab grass problem this year.. Thankfully it's not Quack Grass....

No June bugs... almost no earwigs,,, few mosquitoes but found a dead raven in my garden today ... Health department to pick it up tomorrow... West Nile possible from it's behaviour..

The In ground sprinkler system I installed works great... Some tweaking required in the back.... Lot's of work though to get it to look professional..

Israel like Tibet IMO... Just get over it Ichy says to the Arabs... On this we agree...

Many resistance wars in North Africa are not really about religion but ethnicity, culture and politics.. result of European meddling and country design not based on what was good for the indigenous folks....

Islam's last gleaming ?... In my life will its influence wane to a Christian like status ?

Will Muslims overpopulate Canada into a fundamentalist state ? Well not through democracy.. Women can vote too... but it's not usually by democracy anyway.. but by insurgency... and tacit popular support...

Israel does pretty much whatever it wants....

Muslims purposely target civilians... Israelis have collateral damage.... big difference ? or just Semitic semantics ? :o)

Strategy of both sides has not changed since the inception of Israel... Now that's progress...What a bunch of cavemen...

Hezbollah et al... MUST recognize Israel's right to exist... those Jews won't be accepted in any other country anyway... they are staying put....

Can anyone tell me what the invasion of Iraq really accomplished ? OK Sadam is gone and ... Oh I guess that's it...

I wish someone would come up with weapons of mass destruction for my crabgrass...

By the way.. what's up with Afghanistan... Now that Canada is more heavily involved... we hear a lot more about it... Just what was the success there ? Is the Taliban gone ? no.. are a few major cities.. under UN control with basically a martial law... yes.. Is a blind eye being turned to the cultivation of opium poppies ? yes... Drug production is apparently 1/3 the Afghan GDP...

Why the hell did Iraq get invaded before Afghanistan was OK ? Oh yeah WMDs and we did get Sadam... and provide a much more fertile and nurturing atmosphere for militant Islam there... Chalk another one up for the good guys... sigh... :0(

Imagine all the people..... Oh I digress... Imagine all the money and energy pi$$ed away in Iraq being focused upon resolving the issues in Palestine and Lebanon.... Yeah John and I... what a couple of stupid dreamers...

Maybe the Syrians have a point... Greater Syria.. (but leave the Israeli lands alone thank you) After all ethnically most of those folks in Syria and Lebanon and Jordan and Palestine... are Levantine... Not really really really real Arabs.. Gee now I'm rambling...

BTW... did everyone know that Pashtuns are > 40% of the Afghan population but better 15% of the Pakistani population, tall, with blue or green eyes ? Blond is not uncommon.... Puts a new spin on the derogatory term Paki eh ?

Ichy... Did all those folks have guns ?
Aw they all look the same to me anyway... well maybe not the Pashtuns....
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Saw and Seventh...
Something is really wrong in Lebanon... This General is a Maronite Christian !
cnsnews.com
Lebanese Army Openly Supports Hizballah
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
August 02, 2006


Ichy
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The girl is not a soldier... what would they get for that crime back in the 'world' ?
So you are saying it is OK a part of war... a little Whiskey a GOGO ?
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When one clan fights another... how do they sort it out ?
When Shia fight Sunni... how do they sort it out ?
When French fight English how do they sort it out ?
When Hutu fight Tutsi... how do they sort it out ....

Those Pesky Intolerant Kurds... I'm really confused because these bad Kurds used to be the good Kurds... and they are our allies.. aren't they ? Maybe we need to send in Little Miss Muffet to straighten a few of them out.. Old Kurd, Young Kurd... feel Alright... on a warm Kurdistani night (sorry to Eric Burden)
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BTW What do ya know ...Old Tariq .. en.wikipedia.org Yes, Poor old Tariq... only the 8 of Spades... angelfire.com
Saddam was Secular... Ba'athist's were looking for a Pan Arab empire... Secular in nature... I wonder if they knew who the real Arabs were ? Anyway.. there sure was a lot more religious freedom ... Guess he was good for something...

Do you ever get tired of being sanctimonious? LOL LOL...
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Like all the previous ones... and the next one and the next... Seems like a sound strategy...
Now a point I've mentioned before... Israel likely cannot stay on top forever.. They have US and British support.. but then again with the rise of China scheduled to be the largest economy in the world... with all the trappings... where will that leave them in China's thirst for Middle East oils ? since the US is excluding them from NA wherever p[possible.. Naw.. they are cooked and unless they (Israelis) find a better way... and the US effectively abandoning Afghanistan and then their big accomplishments in Iraq... now that's cogent thinking and effective tactics... to end terrorism.. With those strategies how can the West lose .... ooops I forgot.. The Masons have it covered..... :o)

BTW Ichy The First Nations in Caledonia benefit from the rule of law... too bad they do not abide by it... They cannot compare themselves to Palestinians... Maybe a hundred years ago... There are too many successful natives to go on blaming the white man...
Watching Arnie's End of Days on the Late Late show the other night...... Where do all these minions learn Latin. for the rituals... ? Is there some kind of minion school ? Call now.. to better your life .. online minion diplomas available... Stupid flick.
I took it in high school... got A's but I couldn't speak it to save m life... 'cept for a few old Church phrases that aren't even used there either anymore... Must be Berlitz... Anyway what hokum... Talk about a new spin on Beat the Devil.. Bogart must be rolling in his grave..

This Thursday morning when the liquids got banned from flights...... little girl (OK she's 13) was flying to LAX, early afternoon with my parents to visit my youngest sister. Needless to say the news this morning precipitated quite the visceral reaction in me....
A fellow (er... expert ???) was interviewed on CBC news... The terrorists [plot is the result of dissatisfaction of Muslim immigrants that don't get the lives they thought they would in the west ....... Meanwhile the bank accounts and assets of the alleged terrorists are frozen... one terrorist a woman BTW... a recent convert.. and airline employee... Are these the disenfranchised he was talking about... experts... harrumph!

Apparently American Conservatives are having 41% more children than Liberals... Ya see Liberals like Bill Clinton were wasting their bullets...
:o)
A bunch of scientists recently got together and demoted Pluto... Boy ... that was an important contribution .... I cannot imagine what better way for a bunch of educated folks to spend their time...

Message 22724423 Well yes.... but unfortunately they do not seem to be practical.... If we all invest in the market... will we all retire wealthy ? Doubt it.

The Arabs pre Islam were a matriarchal society... The woman could divorce her husband.. whenever... Mohammed sure put the kibosh on that.... Maybe Islam is really men's lib swung too far....,

The British considered American patriots... terrorists and traitors.... I guess Vince was correct... Winning is the only thing...

Thoroughly bored, I channel surfed and landed on C-Span 2. Summer August 23 Sunday morning he spends channel surfing.. ?
C-Span, more than any other media entity, does its best to assess the pulse of the public interest and bring meaningful programming to the viewing public Kind of like governments do to get reelected ?
Anyway... interesting article but Yet Madison's vision has now been proven horribly wrong. The lobby of a foreign nation now dictates BOTH our domestic and foreign policy and controls BOTH the White House and the Congress. The US supports Israel because... it is in their interests... misguided or not... . America needs Israel... to be their bastion for foreign policy in the Middle East... Had they no designs on the Middle east Israel would not be so supported... It's about realpolitic and oil... not lobbyists...
His points on the danger of big centralized government have merit...
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Should read "or any other A-rab country"
Message 22750695 This whole idea of Arab Country has me bemused as I mused up posting...

IMHO, the Harper BS machine was funded and promoted by the US, AIPAC, and the military machine.
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robinhood.. Saw an interesting news item on CBC.. (Yes I do watch CBC...) no Fox or CNN... and I voted for Mr. Harper :o) Anyway an Inuit group is doping well running tours in the Ungava / Baffin Island region... but the rest of the tour companies are non-first nations.. too bad... Steven Harper was there when the article was being researched... discussing the need for Canadian sovereignty enforcement in the north with native leaders... Something they agree on .... apparently..

Every time I hear news of Afghanistan now... I get more pissed at Mr. Bush et al... for invading Iraq... Can't these guys finish anything ? Now maybe they will open up another festering wound with Iran ?

So are you saying the the crookedness and lies of the Liberal party had no part in their defeat?
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Ichy, you know the Canadian mantra...Liberal good Conservative bad LOL....

The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi.
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Darren was this your friend's personal experience ? These types of writings often pop up in times as these...Problem is WE are not bombing Iraq.... We were/are not part of the coalition of the willing to join a foolhardy expedition last I heard... We are fighting the real war in Afghanistan... When no one else can do it... send in the Canucks.. ;o). Ever since the Boer War...

said he would never be so foolish to utter the word "bomb" in an airport.
Message 22755530
Bomb... : a vessel for compressed gases: as a : a pressure vessel for conducting chemical experiments b : a container for an aerosol (as an insecticide) : SPRAY CAN ;o)
webster.com

If that meteor had not struck the Caribbean 65,000,000 years ago... wiping out the dominant life form.. dinosaurs..... Imagine how far they could have evolved by now ? Gee man we'd all be Gorns.... :o) Gotta love that Star Trek...LOL...


I enjoy the Daily Show and Colbert Report.....




But I see that in Lebanon, for example, Christians are allowed to worship in their churches. Is that not so?
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Oh how SHORT are our memories ... sigh... First I good go on about the good Kurds being slaughtered by Muslim brethren, Iraqi Arabs... and even more closely related Muslim Turks... Now apparently the good Kurds have become bad Kurds and are persecuting Christians.... Also seems the Christian Lebanese have short memories... think Lebanese civil war... how will they survive in a sea of Muslims if the likes of Hezbollah win out ?

But Lebanon is a democracy and Shiites are not in the majority
Message 22758699 Ichy... democracy ? Well sort of I guess... maybe... you could say that... Lebanon's Parliament.... The Speaker of the Parliament, who must be a Shi'a Muslim, is elected to a four-year term. He forms part of a "troika" together with the President (required to be a Maronite Christian) and the Prime Minister (a Sunni Muslim). The privileges of the Speaker are unusually powerful, relative to other democratic systems; for example, the Speaker is able to veto any legislation passed by a majority of parliament.

Why not give them another 600 years to sorta' play catch-up, eh?
siliconinvestor.com. And of course the Shiites and Sunnis are terribly tolerant of each other ..... besides... knowledge doubles in less than 5 years today... we cannot afford 600 years... In this case the Muslims need to get over it... The Old testament id full of blood and guts... but the Jews seem to have managed to keep their faith in a secular world... The points on Jewish conspiracy and lobbyists and and such seem to pale The Jews survived their Diaspora by cunning guile and hard work... The Muslims in their heyday conquered and converted most of the known world by the sword...

I think Toronto cops are going soft... Saw one stop and go into a Starbucks today...

Compliant and subservient: Jimmy Carter's explosive critique of Tony Blair
Message 22759727
Well Jimmy better late than never I guess.... I commented on that just a little earlier... :O) Message 18725578
Those song links are dead.... :o(

Iran would cease to exist, they know that.
Message 22762321 the US could in fact wipe them out quite a few times...
he 16 SSBNs carry 384 SLBMs with as many as 2,880 warheads- thebulletin.org

I think you miss the point. Islam will not survive the death of Israel.
Message 22762820 Ichy the things dropped on Japan were like pea shooters compared to today's weapons... What would happen to Israel... if it obliterated the Middle East...There might be some fallout from that action ;o)

you can see how disunited the various Arab tribes were
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Rich... one of my favourite lines in that flick (One of my all time favourites BTW) T.E. Lawrence: So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are. Not much has changed eh ?

there will be far less trying to sort Good Muslims from Bad Muslims, there will just be the enemy attacking us. I concur on that...
I expect that internal Muslim attacks will make the US far more of a World Power than it is today Or possibly Isolationist and less democratic ? How are they going to pay for an expanded military... and will they bring back the draft ?
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very clear. Muslims rarely care for other Muslims where money is concerned.
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Darren, Very true.. Why on earth are so many Palestinians still living in refugee camps ? That is certainly not all Israelis' fault... Other Arab countries keep them penned up... A generation now...

the rock in Mecca
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One take ....
The religion of the pre-Islamic Arabs was a mixture of Bedouin polytheism, Judaism, and a little bit of Christianity. The pre-Islamic Arabs worshipped three goddesses, al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat, who were all daughters of one god, Allah—this one god was probably derived from the monotheistic religions of Judaism and Christianity. Mecca was the center of this religion with its Ka'ba, or "Cube," which served as the temple for the religion.

Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini
Message 22764340
Yes lorne... that is a huge problem with Islam... the lack of one central authority ..... any kooky Tom, Dick or Khomeni with an iota of charisma can start proclaiming and interpret ting anything he cares from Islam it appears... Basically the religion itself is still tribal... Things were pretty bleak when Christianity went through its tribal phase... Now we are in the ecumenical phase :o)

Ahmadinejad challenges Bush to TV debate I apologise in advance
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... but this was my first thought...

I saw Neil Young on the Colbert Report the other night... He stated that the Afghan War against the Al Quaeda supporting Taliban.. was justified... but what the hell are we (US) doing in Iraq ....I concur...

I was at my cousin's wedding this past Labour Day weekend... .. He married a Chinese from Mauritius.. Some of the family lives in Montreal while some traveled from Mauritius for the wedding... They are 3rd generation Chinese and consider themselves Mauritians.. They speak French and Creole the linguas francas and some English the official language... I just thought it interesting that they consider themselves Mauritians first. The ill-fated Dodo bird was from Mauritius...

A few weeks ago a relative of mine underwent a company sponsored health evaluation... as a benefit... use it or lose it.. so she took advantage.. A large masse was discovered via ultrasound.... An MRI was suggested after she saw her own physician for corroboration... The wait would be many months.... She paid for one in Oakville at a private clinic... 4-day wait... I guess the government schedule is ok if the growth is benign.... I wouldn't wait though... although some have no choice... .. Kinda reminds me of the Clint Eastwood line... Do you feel lucky ?.. Well do you ?

I find it hard to believe that the US somehow sponsored 911... The CIA has secret prisons... WHODATHUNKIT ?

truth about Islam
Message 22766536
Pretty hard to control something so disjointed...

"Do not unto others what you would not have others do unto you."
Yeah Somehow the religious right forgets about the New Testament when convenient and goes for the blood and guts of the old Testament... What happed to Good News for Modern Man.....

The Un has made some demands and Iran will obey them or not,
Message 22767579
Why can't Iran simply 'opt' out of the non proliferation treaty... since anything they do that is nuclear will be considered aggression en.wikipedia.org

now Iran needs to find a way for Iran to mend it's fences
Message 22767655 ROTFLMAO... as you sow, so shall you reap.... How much mending until Iran can choose their own nuclear strategy... I think it will never be enough.. Hell, the US is pissed at us for asserting sovereignty in the north...

But they never bothered to help the Palestinians
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22769850
How have all the surrounding Arab League nations embraced the Palestinians ? Pretty shabbily .... to be kind...

it is not usual to help people who are trying to kill you?
Message 22770472 Man could they use the New Testament... out with the old... in with the new LOL Now that's a bit simplistic :o)

Message 22770851 That would be a foolish non-achievable goal....

Your logic betrays you to be a Zionist Jew. Right?
Message 22770851
To be sure, the Zionist Jews (descendants of the Christ killers some 2000 years ago huh ?? Kinda makes you sound alike a Jew hater... n'est-ce pas ? Maybe... just possibly makes you lack credibility...

George Orwell would have written a scathing essay on the Lobby’s version of Israel’s Animal Farm where one Israeli death is worth more than 202 Palestinians.
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Problem is that the Hezbollah themselves promote this theory... How many prisoners did they want released for 2 Israeli soldiers ?

He seems hell-bent on supporting Bush apparently for the sake of survival of his term in government.
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Now that is just too simplistic...Actually it's stupid... It's the best recipe for NOT getting reelected he could come up with...
Harper brushes off U.S. criticism of Arctic plan cbc.ca
read a few of these google.ca

at least their progeny can read and write English.
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LOL... I dunno... my grandfather was one of those that suffered... but he's long dead... the rest of us speak English or French as first languages.. I wife, 2 kids and I are learning Mandarin though :o)

My son's soccer (OK football) team made it to the finals... Game is on Saturday... the playoffs have actually been exciting.... great entertainment.... thunder lightening and rain are forecast :o(

Harper could have reneged on Martin's promise because he heads a new government. Why didn't he?
siliconinvestor.com LOL>. like Cretien and Martin could have reneged on the GST and free trade ;o) Now that's just plain naive .....

"Revised operational plan for NATO ’s expanding mission in Afghanistan"
Message 22773408 Yeah ... where the Coalition should have gone... instead of the Iraq folly...

Maybe we should stop that and live on love?????
Message 22773490 chapters.indigo.ca;


It was only a matter of time before some Chinese started demanding services in Chinese
Message 22773559 Follow the money.... BMO ATM here in Toronto and in Montreal have Chinese as a third language... The Chinese can afford to live in Markham... We don't see bank machines in Urdu or Italian....

a naturally accomplished American ass-kisser !!!
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All this started because seventh thought Harper jumped the gun on unilaterally supporting Israel... and I agreed BTW but lets not get ridiculous... or maybe the Northern sovereignty issue that the Liberals ignored by and large is unimportant ?

Too much iron in the viagra...? He ain't shooting blanks :o)



Message 22775601 Good Read.

Message 22776065 So what was the point ? It was plain stupid....... I have an idea for a new reality show.. America’s dumbest despots... Ah I forgot... what about the oil ?

Message 22776265 Too easy to subvert... They need a Pope LOL....

"The fighting there can be as fierce as Omaha Beach or Guadalcanal,
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Yep... that's wrapping oneself in the flag....

complete their Masonic world dictatorship by extending their power over Russia and China.
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The US can't win in Iraq... and ran away from Hezbollah... Now they are gonna take on Russia and China ? Good plan....

Jack Layton's got their back.
Indeed, Mr. Layton claims this could be accomplished "working with our international partners to ensure a safe and smooth transition."...
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Secret NDP code for just give it all back to the Taliban... What a maroon...
If anything brings down the Conservatives... It will be Afghanistan...Layton is already campaigning :o)

Iran says U.S., Israel ordered September 11 attacks
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of course Iran has no agenda... :o)

a few guys in caves
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... who said that bad guys were all in caves... a big assumption... n'est-ce pas ? Besides Batman does well with the Bat Cave...

Nobody listened to Afghan warnings: analysts; Country told a year ago about difficult mission
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Yeah... what a screw up Iraq was..... Now we see Afghanistan was far from done... Pakistan cannot control insurgents within its borders.... All they need is a revolution... they already have a bomb...

Very, very interesting as one too many cops have already been killed in the line of duty!
siliconinvestor.com
I guess the problem is this was not some hardened criminal..... Good way to get rid of DUIs ... hey wasn't Paris Hilton just arrested for DUI ? Her 15 minutes of fame has gone on far too long now...

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
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I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died.
Don McLean... American Pie..

Pope assails Canada's laws allowing same-sex marriage and abortion
680news.com The pope should focus more on AIDS in Africa.... the Gay marriage issue doesn't amount to a hill of beans...IMHO

Harper to make televised address to mark Sept. 11 anniversary; Rice to visit
680news.com Please choose you words carefully.... Remember... Iraq should not have happened....

Canada's unemployment rate rises to 6.5% in August as job losses continue
680news.com I guess it is par schmarr as far as the loonie goes...

NATO forces advance into Taliban stronghold, meet strong resistance
680news.com I thought the Coalition of the 'take your pick' went to Iraq after wrapping up Afghanistan ?

NATO military chiefs agree more combat troops needed for Afghanistan
680news.com As Gomer Pyle used to say.... Surprise ! Surprise ! Surprise ! ........ Hard to believe eh ? sigh....

Angus Reid Global Scan : Polls & Research
Americans Regret Loss of Life in Iraq
August 20, 2006

angus-reid.com Amazing that only 56% think it was a mistake... never mind wrong... !! If they were actually winning how would the numbers look :o)

Alladin... back to my lamp...
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