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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (749004)9/11/2006 7:53:41 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
Point I was trying to make, was that liberty and individual freedom are AMERICAN values, born of our revolution... (not 'liberal' or 'conservative' values in our modern sense, but values bequeathed to all Americans. Still, I suppose that if one is a 'true conservative' in the traditional sense of the word, then these values should be considered a birthright, not to be squandered or abandoned to an ever more rapacious, ever more intrusive government.)

As I observed in my post though... perhaps it is a natural characteristic of men and of nations that nothing lasts forever... and 'governments' (& especially 'empires') inexorably amass more and more powers for theirselves, until there is little or none left for the common folk... and then topple or fade away and liberty is (hopefully) reclaimed and new organizations are born.

I tried to point out that this erosion of liberty has been proceeding apace for a long time... regardless of political labels (as Mr. Bauman pointed out: the instinctive reactions of the Clinton admin. after the OK bombing fell on the same side of the scale as those of the Bush II admin. *Both* reacted by INCREASING the powers of the central state over the liberties citizens had previously enjoyed.)

But, since you bring up 'Neville Chamberlain', I can't help but point out that it was the GOP leadership in America at that point in time who sided with Mr. Chamberlain in his isolationist views... and the FDR Dems. who (mostly) did not. :-)
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