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Strategies & Market Trends : The Epic American Credit and Bond Bubble Laboratory

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To: Ramsey Su who wrote (70847)10/4/2006 2:13:57 AM
From: Clarksterh  Read Replies (1) of 110194
 
Ramsey - The difference between yours and Wall Street's view can have only two real possibilities:

a) That you believe that over the last two or three years there have been a very high percentage of loans given out without significant consideration of ability to pay... But in contrast Wall Street believes that the vast majority of mortgages over the last 2 or 3 years DID take into account ability to pay etc. . So WS believes that the new guidance is not a change.

b) WS believes the FED has no ability to actually enforce the change.

Or some combination of the above.

You might ask some of your contacts. I'll bet they mention both a and b in their explanation.

So, what is your metric to support the contention that recently the banks have been ignoring ability to pay etc? Some interesting metrics might be:

1) The booked rate of interest plus principle vs income amount. (But I'll bet no one reports a metric anywhere close to that)

2) For a given type of loan (e.g. IO ARM) the average income vs initial loan payment.

3) The average FICO scores of first mortgages in 2003 vs 2004 vs 2005, ... .

But other data such as increasing rate of ARMS is circumstantial at best. E.g. lots of folks who are more than able to pay a fixed rate loan choose ARMS. So an increase in the rate of ARMS is not necessarily a direct indicator of poorer lending practices. Thus WS may not actually believe that there is a problem?

Clark
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