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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry

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To: Cogito who wrote (79713)	10/9/2006 3:24:09 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 81568

Apparently our occupation of Iraq is open ended as well. The occupation has been over for awhile. Maybe you mean occupation as in taking up space in a particular location? In other words having our soldier located there? That probably isn't open ended, certainly it isn't as inherently open ended as an effective inspection regime would have to be, but your right that it could last for a long time, and does result in more violence and destruction. Whether not invading would have had a preferable outcome depends on what the final out come of the current scenario is (which we don't know yet) and what the final outcome of the no invasion scenario would have been (which we can't ever know). Its not unreasonable to posit that things would have been better or even much better, but its far from certain. I suppose you can technically call what Iraq has a "Democracy" simply because it features elections, but when the government's power to rule is derived chiefly from force A government's power to rule is always based on force. Iraq's government has to apply more force because organized groups are applying force to prevent the government from ruling. That shows a severe lack of security and stability, but not a lack of democracy. including foreign force A number of democracies have required foreign assistance for a time. Nothing inherently undemocratic about needing foreign help to put down guerrilla groups. and when the people have limited personal liberties and fragile personal security Security and liberty are both separate concerns from democracy. Perhaps they are more important concerns, but that doesn't make them the same thing or mean that if security is poor, and liberty from the government mediocre at best, that you don't have a democratic government.

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