How can I ascribe to something I don't know anything about?
You really are an ignorant. You freely admit that you nothing about the koran yet you come here with your self righteous, pompous attitude and attempt to wade into what is clearly a subject that you cannot grasp and absolutely no idea of the fight that we are in. Sir/Madam, you clearly do not have what it takes for this battle. I urge you to retreat to that comfy place behind your momma's skirt and let those that have what it takes to fight this battle for you.
If you say the Koran says people should make false agreements, then this is news to me. What verse in the Koran can I find this satanic command?
Time fer a tad o'edumecation
There are many references in the book of evil. The following excerpts come right to my mind:
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)
“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible.” (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller ( ???? ?????? ), translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)
The entire section is 9:Repentance and talks about much more than just how to deal with non-Muslims. For instance it tells you what to think of them in several places. Example:
,i>9:1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.
More claiming that Muslims need not live by their treaties with non-Muslims.
9:4 Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfill their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
Here it seems to indicate that they might have to obey some treaties but with some huge exceptions. Exceptions you could drive a truck through. After all what does "supporting anyone against you" mean. Seems it can merely mean taking sides on the issue of whether Mohammed is a real prophet or not. What does "abated nothing of your right" mean. Well this depends on what your rights are. Mohammed claims the right to worship at other peoples holy places. So it seems like if they were blocked from some other religious holy sites that would lead to a dissolving of the treaty.
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Well this seems to indicate that once the four months are up well anything goes. Not just anything goes but Muslims are commanded to slaughter, with the exception if the "repent and establish worship". Of course this means that they convert to Islam, as is clear from many other places in the Qur’an. We must remember the context; this is the Qur’an, not a guide by Miss Manners.
Note the obscenity of this. There is no indication that they inform their former treaty partners that they intend to break the treaty. There is no real moral obligation to be fair here at all. Heck if one guy from the other side attacks someone, makes the slightest show of support for someone you don't like then, well, "Have at em". |
