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Politics : Actual left/right wing discussion

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To: TimF who wrote (2946)10/17/2006 1:01:03 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (1) of 10087
 
<<< The question that this study was set up to answer was: as a result of the invasion, have things got better or worse in Iraq? And if they have got worse, have they got a little bit worse or a lot worse. Point estimates are only interesting in so far as they demonstrate or dramatise the answer to this question ...

... That qualitative conclusion is this: things have got worse, and they have got a lot worse, not a little bit worse. Whatever detailed criticisms one might make of the methodology of the study (and I have searched assiduously for the last two years, with the assistance of a lot of partisans of the Iraq war who have tried to pick holes in the study, and not found any), the numbers are too big. If you go out and ask 12,000 people whether a family member has died and get reports of 300 deaths from violence, then that is not consistent with there being only 60,000 deaths from violence in a country of 26 million. It is not even nearly consistent. >>>

commentisfree.guardian.co.uk

The study has proven two things:

1. The Bush Admin made things worse in Iraq.
2. The Bush Admin lied about Iraqi suffering.

Tom
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