TJ, as usual, you miss the point. The formation of England is ancient history, the formation of China is ancienter history, the formation of Tibet is ancient history. Those things are so long ago that they are just part of the melange of the morass of swirling human DNA.
But we can go to more recent events. Such as the formation of the USA, the amalgamation of Great Britain, the empire of the USSR. Those things are so long ago that they are near enough to the earlier times. Though there is some argument still about the relationship of Scotland and Northern Ireland to the United Kingdom and all is not resolved into rule of law in the case of Amerindians. Then there are places like NZ, which although you are obviously quite ignorant, it wasn't a matter of conquest so much as sale and purchase agreement including merger and mutually determined sovereignty. You can read all sorts in cyberspace about it.
Then there are places like Tibet, where outsiders, uninvited, with no property rights in the area and no sale and purchase agreement, no respect and with murderous totalitarianism, march in with nothing but conquest and megalomania on their minds.
Then there are places such as Fiji, Palestine and Hong Kong, were long-ago leases were up and the landlords reasserted their rights. In the case of Fiji, the local yokels booted their tenants off [some of them anyway]. In the case of Palestine, the Ottoman landlords sold it out from under the Palestinians to incoming Zionists [and then all sorts of other things happened too, of infinite complexity and had already happened, long, long ago]. In the case of Hong Kong, China simply said the lease was up and Great Britain went along with that, as per agreement, and sold what wasn't in the agreement down the river too [just as my property rights to being British were long-ago abrogated by Britain, which is not so Great as a result].
So, to the point of it all, which is time. As you point out, there's nothing to be done about ancient history, and I include confiscation of my tribal property rights by China [I could whine about being a dispossessed Palestinian, who lived for generations in China before being cruelly usurped by eminent domain by sundry conquerors].
The casual confiscations by the New Zealand government are being reversed - which is in some ways sensible and just, but in others just racist nonsense, building more problems for the future.
Time does change it all. But some things are so recent that something should be done and can be done. Such as, for example, catching and punishing criminals who are still alive and who actually committed crimes. Once they are dead, their crimes are into the past and their offspring are not liable, other than in instances of theft if the property is identifiable and recoverable. But there's a 100 year period where reviewing what happened is reasonable enough. That's how long people live. Tibet, Timor, Israel, Fiji, and Taiwan fit into that category.
So, to the point. Taiwan. The megalomaniac attack by China hasn't even happened yet. So, such a criminal action can reasonably be treated as not a historical thing to be ignored as water under the bridge, as the Dalai Lama has said the conquest of Tibet is to a large extent.
If we wait another 100 years and China invades this year, then we could say Taiwan is water under the bridge before it has even been attacked. That is insane. Or to put it more politely, illogical. Mathematically too.
The issue is not so much Tibet as Taiwan and the mindless clones who like mindless Nazis on the rampage think they can take over what they think is rightfully theirs by the simple expedient of murder and conquest. That could lead to large problems.
A single soldier shooting a single person can be the butterfly which triggers the change of history. It wasn't even a soldier who triggered WWI with a single shot. Assassinations, by soldier, or other, can indeed change history. When people see a single person being shot, they think "Wait a minute, that could be me". So even a child being shot can have a large effect, in the right context.
So, now you should be able to understand. But, of course, won't. Though with the passage of time you will.
<if a burglar broke into my house, murdered a grand pa, and stay long enough, then his grandchild gets to stay while the original owner's grand child gets picked on?>
If the grandchildren have the same mother, it would make sense for the grandchildren to have equal entitlement to live there and no picking on should be done. It's not the time TJ. Time is measured by events. Time doesn't exist by itself. The events which we are talking about are human events which usually involve breeding all over the place, entangling what were beautifully pure master races in miscegenation, which cannot be put back how they were, like Humpty Dumpty.
Think people, not clocks. China doesn't have property rights in Taiwan. It's not as though there's a million tons of gold been stolen and taken there 30 years ago and needs to be taken back to whence it came, returned to Chinese ownership in the Great Hall of The People.
Time changes some things. Some things don't change. Selectivity is essential.
Which old wrong do you think occurred in NZ which means I should leave? This should be interesting. Also, on a global scale, we talk about Taiwan and Iraq and places like them because they are important and NZ is not. Also to even the most slightly unignorant person, NZ is quite different from other mass migrations.
A close parallel is Hawaii, which was taken over the by USA. Hawaii should of course be annexed by New Zealand so that we would have a year round excellent climate and Hawaii could return to Polynesian roots. Not being violent, unlike China, we would conduct a referendum to see if the locals want to join up with NZ and Cook Island cuzzy bros. We would require an 80% majority before they'd be allowed to join up.
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