I have added that to the following collection of "Sure, they support the troops":
To: TopCat who wrote (748)
6/7/2006 2:12:05 AM
From: ralph-emerson
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What do you debate about? ALL soldiers that served in Vietnam were disgusting cowards....not patriots. The heors were the ones who stood up for what was right and went to jail or Canada, I remind you that America lost that war at home and abroad. Iraq will end the same way, with Americans running.
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To: Michael D. Cummings who wrote (177215)
12/6/2005 10:49:52 AM
From: J. Chris Parson
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C'mon Mike. You're already ON government welfare, driving a boomer around defending us from a 15 year old defeated threat. The Russians keep THEIR boomers in port. You're just a total waste of money. You should have PLENTY of time to spell out the specific Al Jazeera lies you're claiming! Here's a link to their site:
english.aljazeera.net
It's seems less biased to me than Fox News!
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To: Michael D. Cummings who wrote (177261)
12/6/2005 5:08:11 PM
From: J. Chris Parson
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So, now your on retierment welfare from your useless "service"! No one can deny America spends 10 times more than it should on the military. To pay for useless clowns like YOU.
globalsecurity.org
We just can't afford the madness any longer...
siliconinvestor.com
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To: American Spirit who wrote (73789)
2/25/2006 8:33:12 PM
From: ralph-emerson
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" but neither he nor our soldiers deliberately killed anyone who wasn't an enemy"
man are you UNINFORMED
AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE PIGS!
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To: Big Dog who wrote (74162)
10/31/2006 5:07:09 PM
From: seminole83
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That's a shame, I would have hoped your son did better for himself.
Oh well, if wishes were horses poor men would ride.
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From: Big Dog
10/31/2006 4:58:27 PM
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In case anyone missed it some months ago, here is the link to the story I wrote about my 10 Days in the Navy along with all those un-educated service men that went to Iraq.
otaotr.com
big
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To: unclewest who wrote (107898)
8/29/2005 11:25:49 AM
From: redfish
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"Your many posts attempting to insult The American Fighting Man and our Special Forces crossed my line of vision"
In order to show my support for our brave conquering hordes I am having my left arm amputated just above the elbow ... I encourage other patriots to do the same.
Imagine their pride when they return to the U.S. from their years of pillaging and are greeted by 100,000 armless supporters!!!
[sissies need not apply!]
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To: Oral Roberts who wrote (107748)
8/26/2005 2:09:03 PM
From: eleutheria
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"We tried a kinder and gentler boot camp experience by the way which was scrapped."
You have actually bolstered my argument. Of course brainwashing would make men more fit for service, so of course "kinder" training isn't going to work was well. You want almost reflexive obedience- it is rare for men to disobey even an illegal order, because they are so well trained to obey quickly and completely. If you think I think brainwashing is a bad thing, you are incorrect. I have no problem with brainwashing military recruits- and I'm absolute sure they perform better, the better and more fully brainwashed they are.
I've never thought it was a very good idea to try men too harshly, though, when they are "just obeying orders"- if you want them to obey orders in general. That's too much a contradiction for most humans, and especially for low functioning people who have been trained thoroughly to obey (in the "When I say jump, JUMP" school of authoritarian training). I think you need to be very careful of how you use the military, and then just assume there will be illegalities in any use of military might- so the end had better be worth it.
And I don't have a problem with young men being killed because they joined up and were brainwashed to disregard their personal safety more than a civilian would. That was Mr. Sheehan's choice, and he made it, which is why the military probably prefers young men- they are more tractable and trainable, and what Grainne says about their unrealistic assessments of their own mortality is completely true, and is born out by all sorts of accident data- but it just means young men are what we need for an effective military- so be it. So I don't really care if they get brain washed to fight- but I do care what kinds of wars they fight IN. I hate to see resources stupidly deployed. And while I may approve of military training that is effective (and no denying that brainwashing is), that doesn't mean I approve every use of the troops, and I think the war in Iraq is a colossal waste. If my son died there, I would feel it was my duty to say it was a waste, even if he thought (or "felt") he was doing the right thing. That our children die for a cause does not per se make the cause right. Should every suicide bombers' mother refrain from commenting on the waste of her son's life? I assume you wouldn't mind if they went around moaning about the stupidity of that action. I'd like to see Sheehan's mom cut the same sort of slack.
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To: Dale Baker who wrote (4692)
11/28/2003 2:20:02 AM
From: Raymond Duray
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Dale,
Bush's PR stunt at Barfbag International Airport won't be more than a momentary blip on anyone's consciousness.
What is going to be a more grinding reality for the dummkopfs in the Army Reserves and the National Guard is nicely summed up in their own paper, the Army Times:
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To: tsigprofit who wrote (4723)
11/29/2003 12:16:42 AM
From: Raymond Duray
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"The Turkey has Landed"
British tabloid response to Bush's grandstanding PR ploy.
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tsigprofit,
Re: "..the dummkopfs in the Army Reserves and the National Guard..Not only do the chumps "
I find particularly polarizing and negative. Maybe
you misspoke...I hope so.
I did not misspeak. Any American how enlists or re-enlists today is a traitor to America's principles. A traitor to the essence of democracy. Anyone who joins the military today is joining an illegal, immoral and imperial malignancy. The military has been turned into a criminal operation by George Bush for the sake of looting and profiteering by his cronies at Halliburton, Bechtel, Lockheed, Boeing, etc.
No real patriot would be willingly be a part of George Bush's crime operation.
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Re: I believe many in the military believe in their cause,
German soldiers were just as brainwashed by Hitler in 1938. They were drunk on their power and potential. They knew that they could rule the world. They simply didn't think about how immoral they were.
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To: American Spirit who wrote (79959)
11/1/2006 12:11:29 PM
From: cozmokramer
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Most soldiers *are* stupid. That is why they keep voting for the Dumbyass - *in spite* of the fact that Dumbyass keeps cutting their benefits.
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