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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: LLCF who wrote (24853)11/11/2006 10:45:01 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) of 28931
 
Yes, and I was simply pointing out that religious moralism has crept into the way most Westerners view the world... including the obvious digust many people have with anything sexually suggestive.

There may be people, maybe even many people who experience disgust when they see things sexually suggestive, and those feelings may be exascerbated by moralisms. The vast majority of people I have met seem to like sex and make major efforts to discipline themselves away from sexual conduct that can get them into trouble. Most mature people I have talked to about it have chosen sexual circumstances in which they find pleasure and fulfillment under conditions that are not seen as harmful to their partners or significant others afterwords, while still viewing certain sexual practices as off the menu for them personally and disgusting. For most, it seems to be personal choice rather than something they feel bound to only as a matter of religious commandment.

So I don't see why it is a big deal to mention that some people find joy in dance that isn't sexually suggestive and prefer to avoid dancing in ways that is, for the same reasons.

I understood your perspective. As I recall, you described yourself as a youngman who likes to take his liesure at bars in pursuit of a sexual encounter. I can see how any limits on that type of pursuit would seem like an offense to the man on the make.

Other than that I really don't follow your logic.

Not all activity has to be sexualized or viewed in terms of a sexual conquest. Like I said, I have spoken to teens about their bump and grind observations. Usually its the girls who have concerns for it while guys seem all for it. What does that tell you? The girls typically aren't as concerned with scriptural morality as they are with having their personal boundaries disrespected.

Reducing the topic to religious moralism (what you called disgust over sex) seems some what like black and white thinking. Can we not experience disgust without it being a product of religious moralizing?

"I wonder if Tulips talk about bees that way.... "Oh, my here comes that 'bumppygrindy' bee again! Disgusting! Why can't he go bother the queen... I wish they were all drones!"

I agree that tulips and bees are not likely to experience disgust over their sexualizations. Children on the other hand may be harmed if they are sexualized at a time or in a manner that makes them feel violated. Mature young people may be viewing their sexualization as a personal responsibility. Some are uncomfortable with bump and grind dancing and it may have nothing to do with their general view of sex or as a product of their religion.

For example, tulips and bees also are rarely faced with decisions about whether to have a tramatizing abortion or go on welfare roles with children that they are not ready to deal with and can't support, or with guys who love em and leave em. Interaction that is sexually suggestive may cause them to ponder this type of thing. Is that bad? And what's wrong with going for a queen, instead of the ones who aren't ready?
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