Wharfie, thanks for your links which led me to Message 22353856
It's funny watching the irrational hysteria about global warming decades after I was dealing with it, coming up with solutions and thinking about just what was going on.
The newbies have all the zealotry of religious cultists who are going to fly to the space ship behind Hale Bopp. People are generally highly scientifically and mathematically illiterate and they respond more to mob thinking once it gets over a critical mass. For example Germans were induced to join the Nuremberg rallies, calling Sieg Heil and Moslems are induced to line up like iron filings in a magnetic field around the world, all pointing to the North Pole of Mecca, calling for jihad against infidels. People, like sheep, feel comfy in a crowd and when the mob is stampeding in one direction, any sheep going the wrong way or separating from the mob is in trouble.
People can get the basic idea of the greenhouse effect, and mistakenly think they have grasped the whole issue and feel quite clever that they have figured it out. They don't like being told that their ideas are wrong and why.
As Prof Lindzen, and he is obviously a person to take some note of: <Alarm rather than genuine scientific curiosity, it appears, is essential to maintaining funding. And only the most senior scientists today can stand up against this alarmist gale, and defy the iron triangle of climate scientists, advocates and policymakers.
M. Lindzen is Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT.
opinionjournal.com >
Thanks for finding me such eminent good sense. Since he's a professor of atmospheric science, at MIT no less, I think we can say it is NOT true that scientists agree that Global Warming is blah blah blah --- and only the ignorant are disagreeing. It is a lie. And when people use lies, exaggeration, personal attack, and crucially, they ignore countervailing argument, failing to refute it, I always find they don't have arguments worth much at all. Global warming/greenhouse effect fanatics fit that category.
Which is not to say that I shouldn't worry about global warming. I am not one to let OJ off because Mark Fuhran used the word nigger years earlier in some situation. It could be true that I should do something about global warming, even if the fanatics are polluting the discussion.
Twenty years ago, when BP Oil and nearly everyone else were not worried, I was suggesting carbon taxes [not dumb ones] and sequestration by liquefaction, not to mention fuel and vehicle changes [my direct job]. Now, BP is adopting my sequestration suggestions and you can buy 98 unleaded most places, albeit with undesirable aromatics in many instances. It's funny being lectured by newbies and ideological converts to a cult.
Also, people are now not so worried about the population explosion. That change was obvious a decade ago when Malthus was still all the rage. But they haven't figured out yet just how big the drop in population will be. They are still thinking that fewer people is a problem and "woe is us, how will we support the old people". They think the answer is more people! Immigration for example. NZ is importing Islamic Jihad people and the results will not be pleasant - as in Europe.
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