Jayy exposed himself ,not Maurice!
and a moron like you falls for it!
To: TobagoJack who wrote (12844) 12/22/2006 11:53:33 PM
From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) of 13069
TJ, when adults have wars, children are left orphaned and are killed and maimed, even without aiming at them and while deliberately minimizing their involvement. Timothy McVeigh was apparently surprised to learn that there was a creche he blew up as well as the government building. Ooops!! But oh well, collateral damage is part of the problem he thought [in after the fact self-rationalisation]. It is not the aim of the attacks.
I am sure you can understand the difference.
Your murderous idol Hu Jintao is planning collective punishment on Taiwan now. He has supervised murder in Tibet. I'm sure you understand that military attacks in large scale do not leave innocent bystanders bystanding.
I think China must be about the largest concentration camp on the planet. When one is imprisoned, one is in a concentration camp. As you pointed out, Chinese were not allowed to flee. Some escaped [such as daughter's de facto's father]. Most did not.
So it seems odd for you to think concentration camps are wrong when you are in favour of the biggest ever.
I don't see why cluster bombs are wrong when used on military targets. I heard they work well at killing people and maiming them. That helps stop the opposition fighting and opposing. Which is the idea of the attack.
Collective punishment is sometimes necessary. As I explained, the collective punishment on Japan and Hiroshima specifically solved quite a large problem for the USA. It might well have resulted in far fewer casualties and suffering than an invasion would have caused. Given the numbers involved, I'd say that was certain, and certainly better from the USA point of view.
So, no, collective punishment is not always wrong.
What was wrong, was you comparing Jewish self-defence and incidental maimings and killing, with deliberate Nazi Jewish children extermination, cruelty, and experiments.
Not all concentration camps are equal. Some are hideous, some are a summer campground to which one takes one's family for fun and from which one can leave at any time. I think Japanese would rather have been in the USA internment camps during WWII than being a Jew in a German version. Palestinian areas are not concentration camps in a meaningful sense of the word. If Jordan invites them back, they are free to go. If Iraq says "Come on in, we love you" they are free to go. Note that Iraq and Jordan do NOT say that.
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