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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (8824)	1/5/2007 3:05:18 PM
From: Maurice Winn	of 36917

So it's more El Wino/Nino/Nina/Kina. Thanks for the link. No wonder I have thought it cold for decades, it has been getting colder. My perception was correct: <Despite 20 years of cooling from the 1970s through the early 1990s - due to longer and stronger El Ni?o events affecting the regional ocean temperatures - New Zealand?s ocean temperature increase over the 20th century is consistent with the global average upward trend. Sea level along the country?s shoreline has been rising accordingly by an average of 0.04-0.08 inches (1-2 mm) per year. > After 100 years of serious effort in warming the place up, all we have achieved is 1 deg Celsius. About. Almost. On average. The sea level rise we have achieved is 1mm a year. After 1000 years, we will [if it doesn't stop] achieve 1 metre. We are getting better results in Iraq and rolling back the Islamic Jihad tide. With the world's human population about to plunge, and the easy oil gradually being depleted, and new technologies constantly replacing the need for oil, we are going to have trouble keeping our CO2 production up to the necessary levels to prevent global cooling into another glaciation, which has been due and was about to bury Europe and north America and northern China under mountains of snow and ice. We might yet fail to hold the ice off, even at our current CO2 levels because there is a LOT more to the warm/cold business than CO2. That's just one small factor. Look at the size of deserts for example. Egypt used to be lush. The Sahara green. Green absorbs light. Now the desert reflects light instead of absorbing it. 1 metre sea level rise in 1000 years isn't much. We get that much every year just from tsunamis. We can get 10 metre tsunamis and they happen in a couple of minutes, not a couple of centuries. Tsunamis are the only sea level rise anyone needs to worry about. We can walk away from any warming sea-level rise. We have 1000 years to walk away from the first metre rise. We could start walking 100 years from now and not have to hurry. Mqurice

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