" post NEWS articles, and many from arab newspapers. This is ignorant?!?!"
No. Many of the News articles you post are factual and expose horrific conduct being committed some place in the world by Muslims. You know that as I have said so more than once. You are being dishonest again.
You are intelligent enough to know this is not our difference and even if you are not that intelligent, I have articulately layed out for you where our differences fall.
"The world knows the womens place in muslim society is not a good one.....you seem to be the only person defending it."
I assume we live in the same world. It is quite well known in the world I live in, that abuse of females by males occurs in all cultures. The life style of people living in any particular culture as seen by people who reject that life style for one of their own choosing, is usually seen as objectionable (thus the choice, and your focus on the particular aspects of a life style not of your choosing or probably not even available to you). You are not a Muslim, you have not grown up in a way that afforded you a healthy understanding of Muslim culture (except the fringe lunatic culture that makes the news in your articles). You reject the general tennets of the Muslim culture for the usual reasons (you were raised in a different one so you are patriotic to yours and anti-others, btw that's kind of what bigotry means).
Your claim that Muslim women's place in Islamic society is not a good one is based on an outsiders view that is informed by sources that comparatively reject Islamic society in favor of its own. You claim that it is the World's viewpoint and I am the lone exception. That is simply ignorant. It is ignorant of understanding in the sociological sense. Understanding and a valid perspective of culture comes only from knowing first hand how people who have a healthy view of the culture deal with one another, you lack it and are closed to learning about that perspective. So you are no authority on the subject and when you make yourself a spokes person on the subject, you appear very silly to say the least... except of course to bigots who identify with you.
"The world knows the womens place in muslim society is not a good one.....you seem to be the only person defending it.
Maybe I am the only person you know who is not afraid to confront bullying bigots, by I assure you, I am not alone in my view point. It is hard to believe that in the modern age, where information is so available, there could still be people who create such barriers, as you manage to do, for perspectives outside your red neck village. Some how you manage to do it. You seem to work very hard at it too.
There are over a billion people living in the world who do enjoy an Islamic lifestyle, you are able to ignore their perspective for the one's you quip from the lunatic fringe offered on maniacal blogs. That ignoring behavior is the basis of your ignorance. There are also vast numbers of people who recognise the Muslim life style as a good one for people other than themselves. That would be the cultured, educated and informed (unlike yourself) tolerant of other people's culture folks.
"Re: However, I have never met or heard of one single woman among the large number I have personal knowledge of, who has been violently beaten.
....ergo they do not exist.
LOL.....now I see your logic, or should I say what passes for it.
Once again your dishonesty closes the argument as it does your mind to the truth. You know very well that I acknowledged the fact that there has to be violence against women in all large populations including Islamic communities.
Your propaganda that violence against women is inherent in the relationships between all Muslim couples was false, and blatantly so. In fact it is much less likely for violence against women to occur in Muslim families than in the general mainstream of society. I offered sound reasons why that is true and demonstrably so. It is a small effort for you to find confirmation of that for your self from other sources but you wont because information that challenges your close minded view is very frightening to you. Whatever else your criticism of your Islamic neighbors may be, this one was not valid.
Your whole agenda against Muslims is obviously more about misplaced patriotism than an honest concern for the truth or the well being of others. Big error on your part and one that has led you down a very dishonorable path. That is too bad because otherwise it would be good to rally others to do something about the injustices being committed by the lunatic fringe, Muslims or otherwise.
Unfortunately you have become one of the unjust psycho lunies ... tsk. That, I am certain, any decent and rational person who read your thread would confirm. You could do better but that would require some humility on your part... which aint your strongest quality, so far. |
