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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: neolib who wrote (215870)2/1/2007 4:19:45 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (3) of 281500
 
You seem to be unable to make a cogent argument out of your opinions:

1. You finally agree there is no free market in the US or anywhere in the world.

2. You say you can't understand why I just don't go out and start an insurance company that takes advantage of the huge markups, poor service and denial of care of existing insurance companies.

I keep telling you that Medicare IS available to get rid of private insurance. It simply takes political will and nothing more. There is no need to reinvent the wheel when the wheel is there and only needs expanding and fixing where it is broken.

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Many of the advanced treatments we offer those who can afford it are not available elsewhere.

What advanced treatments? You mean the $8K/month that family was paying for and on the backs of R&D and basic research done at taxpayers expense? You say this as if it were a given but it's not.

Yes it's true if you're in Cleveland versus the Sudan but not if you're in other industrialized countries which is the apples to apples comparison. The US still ranks very poorly in terms of OUTCOMES.

You keep saying things as if they were true but you don't support what are only your opinions with facts. Part of the problem with the healthcare system is that it is a for-profit enterprise that wants people to be chronically ill so that they will be chronically treated. That is not a 'healthcare' system, that is a 'for profit' business.

This is a huge problem in the drug industry which had enough power and corruption to buy a congressman for $2m/year to push through the ridiculous Medicare bill. THAT is not a free market. THAT is corruption.

Mandatory healthcare does not address the issues OF COST, inefficiency, price gouging, denial of care, poor outcomes. You finally admitted that there is no free market yet you expect this nonexistent free market to save the system. Health insurance premiums rose 96% under Bush. Who can afford that?

As I said GM spends more on health care than it does on steel. Starbucks spends more than it does on coffee. You may whistle along blithely but it's a disaster that's looming especially as the generation of soda pop drinkers and fast food eaters slam into their 50s and 60s.

That doesn't make any sense.
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