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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Ilaine who wrote (216677)2/6/2007 8:25:11 PM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Ilaine, re: "I wasn't there with Kerry. The other Swiftboat veterans were. I defer to their superior knowledge."

That's it?

You jump in to impugn the war record of a man who saw combat and when questioned on the basis of your opinion all you have is that?

The question was never what the Swiftboater's said, the issue was whether you should believe it. If all you had to add was that you believed it because they said it then I wouldn't have bothered reviewing the objective facts that seem to convincingly disprove their material allegations.

Polly parrots don't add much to the discussion.

And even then you've got it wrong when you say the Swiftboat veterans were there with Kerry. In Kerry's gunboat duties the guys in the boat were the guys that "were there," not the guys who got a bird's eye view or got things second and third hand.

Let's not kid ourselves. You have an innate ability to believe what you want to believe and then you can go into "no one's disproven it to my satisfaction" mode.

And what do you do when you get opinions or information you don't like? Do you look it up and reexamine your views or do you attack the messenger and close your small mind?

Let's look at the rest of your post and see:

"As for your opinion about what "most Americans think", you come up with that BS argument almost every day.

Somehow in your mind "what I think" and "what most Americans think" are one and the same.

You're a member of a relatively small faction, inside an echo chamber, reinforcing your views.

Fascinating, but not persuasive.

Yeah, it's all about people who come up with BS arguments, isn't it?

Next time try to form an opinion that can withstand scrutiny or, and this will be really tough for you, be ready to retract it. Cause the alternative is what you did this time: make yourself look silly. Ed
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