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To: one_less who wrote (218010)	2/13/2007 12:28:51 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) of 281500

Rough, re: "Flushing Out: Iraqis know who is who. And: "With 60+ percent of Iraqis agreeing that it's ok to kill Americans....I am not sure the data is genuinely useful in the current context." Now you're challenging MY assumptions? From the first months of the insurgency I posted that we were in huge trouble based on the Rumsfeld/General's euphemism that "We don't yet have enough actionable intelligence to.." That meant one thing and one thing only...the Iraqis weren't reporting on the insurgents. When the Iraqis "know who is who," and we don't, then we can say without qualification that the Iraqis have made a choice and that we're not it. We've seen that choice for going on four years and it's time you stopped thinking that what the Iraqis are telling us in polls and through their very pointed actions is somehow not "genuinely useful in the current context." You and I had a very spirited discussion on these issues a year or so back. I suggest you take a look back and see how far you've moved since then. I think you've got further to go. It's fine to be an idealist but when men and women are dying in a foolish, unwinnable war, half-blind idealism is a terrible thing and reality is king. Ed

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