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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: one_less who wrote (218133)2/13/2007 11:37:08 AM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
"I remember that discussion. It was when I told you about the ideology of Moktada Al-Sadr, and what to expect from him and what could come of the clash of radical Shia with radical Sunni, and you suggested I was dreaming it all up.

You're dreaming that all up.

"Men and women have been dying since the dawn of creation.....Sometimes good people die an unnatural death because of some sacrifice made on principles of decency, but we don't usually think lesser of them for that. Maybe you disagree..."

What does that mean in the context of our soldiers who are dying and getting wounded in Iraq? Are you suggesting that if we send people to die AND KILL based on "principles of decency" then their deaths are acceptable?

The extent that you're willing to go to find "goodness" in this war is astounding.

The test isn't what we said we sent them to die for, the test is; "why are they dying?" The "why are they dying" question requires pragmatic, objective, reality based analysis, and if the answer is that they're dying fighting an unwinnable war that fails every single cost/benefit analysis, then any talk of dying for "principles of decency" is just excuse talk.

Silly idealism is always a poor substitute for common sense and pragmatic decision making.

And suggesting that those of us who have a pragmatic view of this ill-conceived, doomed-to-failure war somehow "think lesser" of the dead soldiers is just outright, stupidly wrong. You don't hear us glibly proclaiming that "men and women have been dying since the dawn of time," now do you? Ed
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