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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (219194)2/18/2007 11:40:58 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (3) of 281500
 
One need not be a mind reader. One only need know about the Downing Street memo.

"One would have to be a mind-reader to know whether that were true. How else could he know when a decision had already been made? This is obviously just a baseless charge by someone who wanted a different decision made. "

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That’s actually an assessment that would justify a decision to use force sometime within the next several years, unless something else succeeded in changing the situation in the meantime. "

Since exigency was part of the rational for the cause for war, closeness matters.

"Accordingly, one can’t simply rely on the intelligence community to set policy, especially when it involves really important issues."

So if one doesn't rely on intelligence one relies on...psychics? One's "guts"? The entrails of chickens? I'm not sure what replaces intelligence, and if this war is an example of the result of disregarding intelligence, I can't say I think you have yourself a winner of a demo.

"Bush didn’t say Iraq “was purchasing uranium ore”, he said he sought to purchase uranium ore:"

Ok. Sought to purchase, or to be more accurate "caught attempting to purchase". Still wrong, and there were caveats on the data that was used. But if intelligence doesn't matter, according to you, it's perfectly clear one can use anything. So why even talk about what's sensible to use?

"The CIA memo, dated Oct. 5 and addressed to Gerson, Hadley and others, objected to a sentence that the White House included in a draft of Bush’s upcoming [October 7] speech, saying Hussein’s “regime has been caught attempting to purchase” uranium in Africa…Hadley said the CIA—the memo was not signed—noted that the amount was in dispute and that it was not clear the material “can be acquired from the source.” The CIA also pointed out that Iraq already had its own supply, 500 tons, of the “yellowcake” uranium ore it was accused of seeking."

Ah- I see, it's all "crap". Nough said. Wow. That's going to convince people! I'm not sure you found what you absolutely and so clearly fundamentally believe you found. But I do believe that YOU believe you've found it. That's quite clear.
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