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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: epicure who wrote (221326)2/27/2007 12:47:42 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
When Saddam was in power, he was killing insurgents (basically)

He was killing the Shiite and Kurdish insurgents who rose against him; but he was hiring and training the Baathist and jihadi insurgents that we are fighting now.

Different "insurgents."

since they seem to be doing the killing at an even greater rate than Saddam killed people, I'm not sure I see the net gain.

The Iraqis still do - the net gain is they have hope to regain their own country. Under Saddam they had no hope but for more of the same under Uday and Qusay, or more likely, under whichever brother managed to kill the other.

I'm not saying there is anyting fabulous about a civil war - a civil war that didn't need to be if the Coalition troops had understood beforehand that Saddam was training up an insurgency. In this they were handicapped by the US intelligence community, which not only refused to believe it then, but still tries to deny it now, even as papers slowly get translated from Iraqi intelligence. Slowly, because the intelligence community has nothing but embarrassement to gain from them and is trying to bury them.

I'm only saying that there is hope that the war will end without spinning out of control. The war did not start from the will of the people but from Zarqawi's plan to blow up enough Shiites to goad them into action.
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