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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (222991)3/8/2007 10:49:19 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
I'd forgotten what fun it is to deal with your particular, peculiar form of "intellectual honesty". You started out with the alleged "cause" in siliconinvestor.com


Wilson's lying NYT op-ed was "cause"


So, I posted Wilson's allegedly lying NYT op-ed in its entirety and asked what the lies were, and you came back with 5 alleged lies that, as near as I can tell , and as Ed pointed out, have no apparent relation to Wilson's nefarious op-ed piece. I assume your 5 "lies" have mostly to do with the continuous smear campaign that random W flacks have been running against Wilson for three and a half years or so now, but I have a hard time keeping up with all the smear campaigns the flacks are always juggling.

One point in particular:


Lie number 4: he had gone to Africa at VP Cheney's request and Cheney knew he had gone there because it's "standard operating procedure". Nothing about Wilson's trip was standard operating procedure. In fact, the way Cheney hit the ceiling when he read Wilson's op-ed is supporting evidence for the fact that the entire operation was a nasty surprise planned by the CIA for the VP.


Ewwwwww, the dreaded CIA conspiracy against the noble shooter Dead-eye Dick Cheney again. The line that Wilson went to Niger at Cheney's request I know has been put out continually, and I would dearly love to see where, exactly, Wilson claimed anything like that. In the "lying op-ed", what Wilson said, precisely, was


In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.


The relation between that statement and your "lie number 4" is extremely tenuous, to be charitable. Offhand, I'd say somebody is indeed lying here, but it doesn't seem to be Wilson.
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