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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (203652)	4/22/2007 11:46:17 AM
From: kech	Read Replies (1) of 793790

having seen the expensive results of huge and fatal support in distant wars, I don't see great merit in NZ joining in unless it clearly serves our interests to do so. England was not very far at all from Germany, if you check a map and the English Channel can be crossed in a dinghy on a good day. People swim it. The moat around NZ is a bit more challenging. Good argument for isolationism. Chamberlain and his party in England had the same view. It is nice view of the world when you see possible threats to assume the best and hope they go away. In my reading of the affairs between nations it doesn't usually work that way. In general, weakness invites aggression. Maybe it is different this time, and countries like New Zealand, can use a checkbook instead of armaments and treaties and such. The irony though is that then you attack the US for using Jihadi's to attack the Soviet Union. If this had even a small contribution to showing the underlying weakness of the Soviet Union system and ushering in the decline of the cold war, it seems like a good deal to me. Would China be able to embrace capitalism and globalization if there was still a cold war underway? Would New Zealand's checkbook defense be possible without these changes? No it would not, yet you denigrate the actor and tactics that have made it possible. Also laughable is your claim that Gillespie invited Iraq to take Kuwait. Is this part of a conspiracy that you think Clinton had in mind leading to a US invasion of Iraq for BIG OIL? Apparently that is what you think but it sounds delusional to me. I don't much know about the slights and terrible things that France did to New Zealand. But I would expect more of them to come if you encourage New Zealand to thumb its nose at its own cultural and intellectual ties to Britain and go it alone as a non-aligned country with only Sheeple to defend itself. The contrast with Australia could not be more striking. Australia sees its place in the world very differently than New Zealand and this is despite very similar environmental circumstances (at least from here).

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