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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: michael97123 who wrote (228302)4/23/2007 3:46:47 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
did you ever think that its not about us but about them.

Yep,.. just like 9/11 was about "them".

Just like all of those terrorist bombings in Baghdad are about "them".

Hell,.. WWII was about "them" (Imperial Japan and the Nazis).

And the Cold War was about "them".. Communism

I love your outcome but cannot allow you folks to make policy any longer

"you" folks? Listen.. this is a problem that ALL AMERICANS face. The democrats have to be part of the policy making solution as well, just as they did in 2002 when they voted to authorize the use of force against Saddam's regime.

And I've been waiting for several years now for a Democrat (or anyone else who criticized this administration's handling of Iraq) to provide us a workable option.

So Michael.. I'm all ears.. Give us YOUR policy recommendations and let's open them up for analysis.

You deny that to them when you divide the place up.

And you think the Saudis, Jordanians, and Syrians are going to sit idly by and have a Iranian puppet state right on their borders? I thought that was why they were all so intent on supporting Saddam against Iran back in the '80's?

As i understand it there is no love lost between shiaa arabs and shia persians and we can exploit that in helping the new iraqi shiaa regime.

Very true.. but when they're faced with a Sunni backlash from the Sunni states to your west, north, and south, they're not going to have much of a choice except to find friends where they can, even in Tehran. Muqtada Al Sadr's primary patron, Grand Ayatollah Kazim Al-Haeri has been living in Iran for years now, and many expect he will make a play to replace Sistani when he dies.

And what do you think the Turks are going to do, faced with an independent Kurdish state? Do you think they will just sit still and watch as the Iraqi Kurds obtain statehood? Don't you think that the Turkish Kurds will demand the same right?

And what makes you think you can manipulate the various Shi'a factions if we're no longer present in the country? We're having a hard enough time as it stands trying to get the various factions to cooperate.

And all of that oil gives everyone of them a reason to fight to the last drop to dominate and control it.

Hawk
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