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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: epicure who wrote (231828)5/21/2007 9:32:03 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
On the other hand, if you were a virgin in England, or Germany, (or a wife) and of a certain caste, you were going to be virtually under lock and key (and perhaps actually under lock and key if daddy or hubby bought you a chastity belt). Ever seen the chastity belts in the museums of Europe?

They were used by Crusaders in the 11th and 12th centuries. I was talking about the 16th century - and what I said for Holland and Venice (two places that happened to have Turkish embassies) was true for other places as well. My ideas of history were formed by, well, reading history books. I don't know where you got yours.

The Arabs did not learn most of their misogynistic ideas from the Koran but from the Byzantines, who treated women abysmally as a rule. Nonetheless, for the past five hundred years at least, there is simply nothing in the Western world to compare to the treatment of women in Islam. Houses in the West did not have a women's section (the "haram" lit. "forbidden") into which no man outside of the family could come, and the women could not leave. Women in the West were not mere vessels for a man's honor, and it made a huge difference whether an innocent girl was raped or whether she committed fornication.
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