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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush
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To: JBTFD who wrote (81217)6/1/2007 3:45:05 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 93284
 
It might be a definitional matter.

re: I'm sure I will be shown right when it happens that some other country tries to exercise this "right".

By my definition of rights you would not possibly be shown to be right. Having a right doesn't mean you have the ability to exercise it.

Of course right is a term that has multiple meanings.

You have natural rights, which are a philosophical concept, and one that some people don't even believe in, and others believe in by wouldn't apply to countries.

You have legal rights, but there are different levels of law, different interpretations about what the law means, and different ideas about what types of things even count as law.

You have "customary rights", which might be thought of as a more concrete form of natural rights (even if still not very concrete in most situations) or a less concrete form of legal rights.

Getting back to the points we where discussing, I'm not sure that there is a lot of difference in out feelings about concrete reality in this situation, we would just apply different labels to a reality that we see in fairly similar ways.

The different labels shouldn't matter so much as long as we actually understand what the other person thinks, but labels don't only serve a descriptive purpose, they serve a rhetorical purpose. By choosing what label gets applied you can effect people's viewpoints. That fact is probably the main reason why you get so many fights over labels and other semantic issues.
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