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Politics : THE WHITE HOUSE
SPY 691.81+0.6%Jan 6 4:00 PM EST

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To: TimF who wrote (5310)6/1/2007 7:11:06 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 25737
 
Re: You quoted me out of context, leaving off the important "or established beyond reasonable doubt in some other way."

For brevity only....

Thought the second part of my reply picked up on, and addressed, your point adequately.

Re: Germany was in an open declared shooting war against the UK. Even your interpretation of Pakistan's actions in regards to the US doesn't approach that.

Never did I say that "Pakistan was at WAR with the United States"....

(What I said was they have --- from the very beginning, and still today --- SUPPORTED and SUCCORED the Taliban. Because they perceive it to be in their national interest to do so....)

That is an example where the national interests of the United States and Pakistan DO NOT 100% COINCIDE --- but it's not the same as going to 'war' with the US.

(Clearly, it would also be in their national interest to NOT put themselves in a position where they would be attacked by the United States, or embroiled in open warfare with the US. Which explains the difficult and duplicitous road they are walking: continuing to support and provide sanctuary and succor to the Taliban and extremist Sunni and Pushtun tribal groups... while 'officially' maintaining that they are opposed to terrorist actions by same, officially doing just enough that the US hesitates to label them 'enemy'... they are trying to 'have their cake and eat it too', and the Taliban's fight to weaken the new government in Afghanistan, and Islamicists fighting for the 'Pak' cause in Kashmir, BOTH serve Pakistani interests.)

Karzai says it. The CIA says it. British Intel. says it. Stratfor says it, the Indians say it, Iran (if they were talking to us <g>) would probably agree, etc., etc., etc.
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