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Politics : THE WHITE HOUSE
SPY 689.230.0%Jan 23 4:00 PM EST

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (5344)6/3/2007 6:37:29 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 25737
 
"thank ...carter for the iran we have today by not backing the shah...."

P-L-E-A-S-E....

(The Shah died within a few short months of incurable cancer. So, a government transition was inevitable at that point-in-time anyway! And Carter pissed off the Iranians by not turning the Shah over to them for trial anyway....)

PS --- if you want to BLAME SOMEONE for setting off the chain of events that produced such animosity toward American policy in modern Iran... you should look to the CIA coup in 1953 that over-threw their elected Democratic government, and *forced* the deposed Shah back on them as KING.

(Note: the second time we screwed them over. The first was lead by Britain - with America in a secondary role - when the Shah's father was forced on Persia as their King: all to secure OIL RIGHTS for B.P., and other Western firms, at CONCESSIONARY RATES.)

"that nut job created the fertile ground from moslum extremism today..."

Wrong.

He had next to *nothing* to do with creating the climate of either Sunni, or Shia, extremism of today.

(But --- one could EASILY POINT to the later days of the Reagan/Bush administration... when they shifted the US from a quite reasonable and useful policy of NEUTRALITY in the Iran/Iraq War, that they had previously promulgated, and over to a policy of helping Saddam SURVIVE. Likely if we HADN'T DONE THAT, then Saddam would have fallen... (and we would have never had to fight the *two wars* in Iraq)... and the Sunni States and Shia Iran (& parts of Iraq) would be opposing each other STILL... and nothing like this outer-directed jihadism would have ever developed, as they would be too busy fighting each other, and their conflict would have never taken on the aspect of fighting against foreign, non-Islamic 'occupiers'.)

But, the peanut farmer? PLEASE! You might as well blame Mickey Mouse or Fred Sanford, each had next to nothing to do with shaping these events. <GGG>
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