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Politics : THE WHITE HOUSE
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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (5382)6/4/2007 11:24:04 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 25737
 
'Lucy'... you may have 'some s'plainin' to do' too. :-)

(As far as 'ignoring points' goes....)

Believe in my second post I:

a) made reference to one point you seemed to skip over --- that the EUROPEAN PRESS quite widely stood up in support of press freedoms, and the cartoons were published widely there.

b) suggested that the craven pursuit of profits vs. a purer support for freedom of the press, from today's American news media, might have something to do with the news media's modern structure of corporate ownership... (controversy being adjudged to be 'bad for business' by the owners.... :-(

c) only tried in my post to refute the *precise choice of words* you had used, GZ... when you said "show me one U.S. newspaper that ran the cartoon", as that seemed to imply that there were NO AMERICAN PAPERS who ran the cartoons... and I *knew* that there were SOME, simply because I had seen them published in several different American papers. (Not even counting the much more wide-spread European coverage, of course... which I've already acknowledged published the cartoons MUCH MORE OFTEN then the American press did.)

Even if I only saw them in a couple of newspapers over here... that is still more then 'none', in my book, GZ. <g>

d) (while my posts also noted that --- even in the American press --- there were countless EDITORIALS expressing support for a publisher's right to print these, if they so chose.)

You seemed to be not so much impressed by mere editorials of support though, perhaps desiring to see the cartoons MORE, (& the editorials supporting them less... :-), but... as I've also noted... they weren't particularly artful or funny to begin with, IMO, and it was the story of the conflict they aroused, that was more deserving of media coverage, anyway, then the cartoons themselves.... And, the STORY got pretty wide play, with, (I'd judge), well more then 90% of all editorial positions being taken IN FAVOR of a publisher's right to print them --- if they wanted to.

Thank you, I rest my case....

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From my second post:

I saw the cartoons all over the press that I was reading. (Including some American ones.... :-)

European press outlets (Dutch, German, Scandinavian, British, Italian, etc., etc., etc.) nearly all reproduced the cartoons --- not because they were all 'that funny' (they weren't), or all 'that good' --- but because it became a big story, and called into question the extremely important and centuries old issue of FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.

(So, maybe the American press have lost a step or two on the European press? Maybe our new 'corporate media' doesn't have the guts that was found in previous generations... and kowtow to their corporate and governmental masters TOO EASILY, and TOO FREQUENTLY? After-all... mustn't upset the money-making machines, right? Can't step out of line and call down trouble on your head that might impact the ability to sell ads.... Or, perhaps the 'political correctness' of never printing criticism of religions, or the actions of adherents, has gotten out-of-hand in the good ole U.S. of A.?)
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