"Oh. When was it the US became a police state? During "operation wetback" you say? Because I know I missed it and I know enough American history that if it happened before my time, I would know about it."
A twenty-first century operation wetback would be NOTHING like the 1950s version, Laz, and you know it. In those days, with over 1700 INS agents and the help of state and local police in TX, CA and AZ, conducting sweeps of Hispanic neighborhoods and random stops of "Mexican-looking" people over a year, they managed to deport a whopping 80,000 illegals (the INS claimed many more left on their own, but there is little or no evidence to back up that claim). That was just a limited, 3-state police action, Laz. Can you imagine what it would take to remove some 12-20 million illegals today, spread over most of the country?
"Well, I suppose the ICE officers can start off polite. But if they don't come peacefully to be deported, well, they had the chance to avoid violence."
I thought you were arguing it WOULDN'T become a police state, Laz. Do you know what you are typing?
"Now how should that be read EXCEPT as a criticism of a requirement to learn English?"
Laz, if you REALLY need me to translate plain English for you, perhaps you should be deported.
Now stop being obtuse - I was citing the typical rants of the xenophobic idiots who thought in prior centuries that immigrants refuse to assimilate and think the same thing again now as well as that this bill would eliminate the requirement of English proficiency for citizenship. Don't be a xenophobic idiot and stop asking the same stupid questions over and over again. I NEVER even remotely "[criticized the] requirement to learn English".
As for your "studies" of the cost to us of having illegals here, if I was interested in playing the dueling studies game I could copy and paste just as many that say the net cost is insignificant or even negative. Playing that game with you, though, would be a waste of time because you would ignore them anyway. I will say, nevertheless, that even think tanks producing high net cost numbers (e.g. the Center for Immigration Studies) admit that the numbers are driven by the immigrant's income levels and not their immigration status. CIS even acknowledged that their estimate of the net cost to taxpayers per illegal immigrant household was roughly half that of a comparable legal resident or citizen household. Lower income people get more from government than they give. Even citizens. Imagine that.
Now back to your regularly scheduled xenophobic spasm. |
