The first one proves that some people think that way. That they are willing to use deceptive tactics to accomplish things that they think should get done. The military in this case. Most likely the only reason that the documents from Northwoods were ever declassified was because it was never implemented. if it had been implemented they would never declassify the documents proving it was a false flag operation.
That some people think this way, in no way proves a false flag operation has ever actually occurred, much less "many false flag operations" as you charged.
"Second, Pearl Harbor was ACTUALLY ATTACKED by Japanese naval air forces. A false flag operation would have involved US planes disguised as Japanese attacking Pearl."
False. If they knew it was coming and let it happen as an excuse to get into WW2 that would also qualify as a false flag operation. It is also a fact that we had cut off Japan's oil supply. It wasn't a stretch to expect that they would retaliate. You can argue around it but you haven't proven it wasn't a false flag operation.
Apparently you want to redefine false flag operation. The real definition is one done under a "false flag". An actual Japanese attack can't be an American false flag attack by definition.
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. wikipedia
As far as the Gulf of Tonkin, it is a very widespread idea that it was a manufactured incident.
A widespread myth should not be used as evidence.
Go ahead and prove it wasn't if you can. You haven't yet.
I've cited a source saying an attack really happened. What more do you need as evidence? What would you accept? Nothing, your closed mind is made up. Isn't that true?
I've already pointed out that the only way one could actually prove that an incident was a false flag operation would be if someone involved in perpetrating it CONFESSED.
That would be evidence of course. So would good witnesses. But you don't give ANY evidence that a US false flag operaton has ever happened, much less the "many false flag operations" you claimed.
Even then diehard righties would just say that the person was a liar and would continue on with what they want to believe. The conclusion is that it is IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE A FALSE FLAG OPERATION in any way that would be acceptable to you.
We don't know that, because you haven't offered any evidence. You just list examples, ignore contrary evidence, and want your fantasies accepted as reality by others as proof of their open-mindedness.
So I choose to believe that in reality that is the way government functions sometimes.
Sure, believing that provides a rationale for the hostility you feel toward our nation.
You have not proven that is not the case.
I've made arguments and provided evidence publicly available. Really, the burden of proof though should be on you anyway. You're making the wild assertion and demanding it not be challenged.
Actually your whole attitude that it is worthy of argument is STUPID.
I would suggest your inability to argue in support of your wild claim is ... well, you know. |