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Politics : THE WHITE HOUSE
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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (5641)6/13/2007 2:07:24 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 25737
 
Aren't Social Security 'trust fund' fundings officially "off budget"?

In some ways they are officially off budget, in other ways they are not (for example the budget deficit is reported with consideration of both SS spending and SS tax receipts, as "unified budget")

But either way it doesn't really matter. The government spends money, and the government receives money. You can break it down in to a million categories if you want but its still the same government.

But, it assumes that the government can be held '100%' responsible for situation. (Some things might be beyond government's effective total control... even the Soviets could not effect total control of all factors in society, no matter how hard they tried.)

Not everything is under the governments control, but the government's tax and spending policies are. Any social program could simply be canceled by a single act of congress (or for state programs the state legislatures), or at worst two acts (pass a bill canceling the program then overide a veto). Of course many of these programs have too much support for legislators to want to cancel them, but that doesn't mean that government doesn't have the power to cancel the programs, it means that it doesn't want to do so.

B) As I've argued --- 'costs' are but one side of the ledger. There are also potential economic gains to be measured.

In terms of the issue you are talking about (immigration, or perhaps illegal immigration) you are right. But immigration wasn't really the issue my post was concerned with. It was just used as an example of the wider issue.
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