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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (234201)6/25/2007 3:28:08 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (5) of 281500
 
aside from a few guys who launched an attack in NY, I can't say Islamic folks have done much to me- although my country has invaded both Afghanistan and Iraq, and before that Kuwait (although I'll let that one slide, since it was to restore international boundaries.). If anyone is driving panzers over anyone else, it's the US driving panzers over the folks in the Islamic world. Now you can say we're in tremendous danger from them, but that doesn't really appear to be the case.

Prejudice, btw, is NOT deciding before the evidence. Prejudice is taking a small amount of evidence, and generalizing from the part to the whole. Sometimes it works (the sun will rise tomorrow, because it has risen every day of my life before now), sometimes it doesn't (all Moslems are like the very small number involved in 9/11).

Now you can try to make the small number of radicals in the Islamic world exactly like the threat the German war machine posed to Europe, or the organized Japanese army posed in Asia, by using prejudice and generalization, but since I actually read (history as well as fiction) that doesn't work for me. Apples and oranges in the extreme. The problem with generalizations is that they get us in to war in places like Iraq, where we really shouldn't be. IMO, of course.
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"It's a bit like if I wrote "If I had a house in the USA ..." Just as an example of the completely illogical way you use analogies, what you said was "If I were a Moslem I'd slit your throat" or words to that effect. I don't think ANY data anywhere supports the view that the "middling Moslem" worldwide would do that. You try to obscure the issue, but I'm not buying your obfuscation. You can't generalize from a few criminals to a whole civilization (well YOU can, but it just isn't logical). You don't even have 51% to justify your prejudice. I imagine the number of actual throat slitters is probably less than 2% of the population, world wide (if that- I'm guessing high). You can generalize with statistics on your side, but your trying to defend prejudice untethered from the reality you claim you observe, but obviously don't. Reality includes all the people NOT doing criminal acts, as well as the few that do.
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