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To: marcos who wrote (44062)7/6/2007 10:13:56 AM
From: johnlw  Read Replies (1) of 78419
 
marcos
I misunderstood that you were referring to the total mass of the plant.
I assumed you were talking the harvested portion of the plant-the seed, the kernel.
Stalk, roots, cob aren’t part of the equation when the corn is harvested for human consumption either.
This isn’t corn country so I’ll go with your 3%. My apologies.

For my Permolex plant they are using feed wheat. Some high yielding dwarf variety, let’s say 60 bushels to the acre. 36# to the bushel gives us 2160# of grain to the acre. Not a lot of straw with this stuff but let’s be generous and say you get a couple of big John Deere round bales to the acre at 1200#/bale. 2400# acre straw vs 2160# grain.
47% using my rough figures. Chaff and roots aren’t part of the equation.

The original point I was trying to make with the Permolex example is that there is a process which is using a large percentage of the harvested portion of the plant not just for ethanol production but flour and gluten. A portion of the crop is staying in the human feed chain.

Whether or not their process is energy losing I’m not qualified to say. The arguments I hear for ethanol are its cleaner fuel and reduces reliance on imported oil. Someone has decided that using domestic natural gas is a good use of the energy with these goals in mind.

I still think the best part of the deal is that producers are getting a better price for their product. You don’t, fair enough. Most years in Alberta there is a glut of feed wheat. Historically a small percentage goes #1 in this part of the province. That producers now have another option to market a lower quality crop or in fact grow a variety targeted to a new audience is a good thing from their perspective.

It is here and happening, part of the landscape now.
It is not all bad and it is not all good.

I think you are correct re spoiled grain. It is insignificant nowadays.

The recent discussion in the Boom Boom Room doesn’t make the ethics of Brazilian ethanol particularly appealing to me. Similar to your feelings about Canadian ethanol production I gather.

I have placed a few small bets on LEC for a cellulosic play.

JW
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