₪ David Pescod's Late Edition July 12, 2007 An Update with Canaccord's Clive Stockdale (From June 14, 2007)
Over the last decade or so, one of our favourite stock pickers and one of the guys that always was so good at finding that high risk/high reward oil and gas play that usually created some excitement was Clive Stockdale. Clive was previously the oil and gas analyst at Loewen Ondaatche, Pemberton Securities and Dominion Securities and is currently a Vice President Corporate Finance at Canaccord. He has had some huge winners and I guess the one story that stands out to all of us was Ultra Petroleum, which he discovered at $0.50 and became what everyone dreams of...a hundred bagger. He was also “Johnie on the Spot" as one of the first to be looking at Oilexco, way back at $0.25 a share. Mind you, that might be a tribute to tenacity rather than acuity, since Clive had held in during previous incarnations that included wildcats in Newfoundland and Louisiana and was ready to buy into a new direction. This year has not been kind to him. He had what all investors/speculators experience at one time or another, a “month from Hell” as three of his favourite stories failed to deliver. Still, all three of those stories offered people a chance to make a buck, but it's time to check in with Clive for some of his thoughts at this time.
Dave: Looking at some of the success stories Clive, any additional thoughts at this time about Ultra and Oilexco?
Clive: Ultra is a situation that, of course, has gone its own way now and I really am not following it that much any more-- except to note with chagrin its quotes. Yet, it’s worth noting that the stock didn't go up linearly and smoothly as hindsight would suggest. If my memory serves me right it went up to over $5 per share and then checked back to $0.85 per share and many speculators were shaken out. With Oilexco, the same thing happened: with the previous plays talked about before, we went up and down with it twice and then Millholland came into his own with his early diagnosis of the potential of the second generation drilling in the North Sea. I think it's a fair comment to say that I was lucky to see Millholland not only see the opportunity, but also to have the guts to seize it. Believe me, there were enough “naysayer’s” at that time--some of whom are sheltering under his umbrella now.
Maybe, and I use the word "maybe" advisably, the lesson to be drawn is that being able to hang on and not be stampeded into selling brings very large rewards. No guarantees, of course, looking at my portfolio reminds me of looking at a WW2 bombsite and yet those stocks that have succeeded have more than paid for the many mistakes. Hopefully, I will be able to say with respect to the setbacks this year that the same lessons can be adduced in support of the stocks involved.
Dave: Let's get down to it. Two of your favourite stories, International Frontier and Gulf Shores have had little fun courtesy of a dry hole in the North Sea. But, looking to a bright side, they have several joint ventures still lined up. What do you see for them right now?
Clive: I think that the well that was drilled--the Laurel Valley well--was definitely the one with the most obvious potential. Yet with the very favorable financial condition of both companies at the moment, there will be an ongoing supply of exploration news and, although each individual project might not have the huge upside appeal of Laurel Valley, there's certainly enough to sustain market interest.
Dave: July 15th will see the spudding of a gas play that some people actually have high hopes for, despite the fact that it may not be the target that Laurel Valley was.
Clive: That's my understanding--that the probability of success is quite high since gas has been encountered in the prospect area. It's the Lytham & St. Annes prospect; a 972 square kilometer block involving Quad 41, east of Teeside. Once again, we have the benefit of 3D seismic which suggests that moving up dip from an earlier location could encounter three prospective reservoirs, The area seems to be gas prone, sufficiently so to attract Lundin Petroleum the operator of the wildcat and the proposed location is seven kilometres south of a fallow gas discovery at 41/5-1.
The location being tested could host a prospective resource of 690 BCF if all three reservoirs are present.
Success here would underwrite the present price of the stock, but it would also corroborate the idea that several other structures evident on seismic would also be prospective and in this respect overall potential reserves of one trillion cubic feet have been bandied about. Reserves of this magnitude certainly preserve the idea of GUL and IFR having a series of prospects with high impact. Their interests are respectively 10 and 6.25%.
Following on after that, maybe in late September--October, will be spudding of the Ridgewood prospect where GUL will pay 15% for a ten percent interest in the 72.5 square kilometer license and IFR is currently anticipated to have a 25% interest . In the general Moray Firth area, the prospect is 35 kilometers north east of the Beatrice Field, and nine kilometers from the nearest proven Jurassic oil accumulation.
The play postulates a tilted fault block with four way closure encompassing 1,100-2,000 acres. Filled to spill point, the potential is for 180 million barrels recoverable on the upside P10 case. The ten percent interest would then augment GUL’s asset value by $4.00 per share and IFR’s by over $10.00--that's the upside, which is ten times the current price.
And that's not the end. Provisionally, the first quarter of 2008 will see the drilling on Quad 30 for GUL and, in the background, is the possibility of a further high potential play participating with senior oil companies. Remember, Laurel Valley was drilled excruciatingly quickly, but only depleted the GUL’s cash balances by 12% and with the further drilling planned it's silly to throw in the towel right now. IFR, of course, has winter drilling planned in the North West Territories and has to be presently at a bargain sale price with its enviable working capital position of $0.53 per share.
Dave: A second adventure was with TG World Energy, a stock which nicely better than doubled. They've done exploration both in Alaska and Niger. Any thoughts on those two plays and the Company at this point?
Clive: To be honest with you, I don't know when we first started discussing the TGE because we've definitely been following it since just above the $0.25 level. I think it went to well over the $2.00 level, so yes, it was a pretty nice move. The Niger play has stumbled, but still hasn't yet been condemned. Its huge potential was what made it so attractive in the beginning and also the fact that the Company was being carried by the China National Petroleum Company on considerable seismic expenditures, and the drilling of the first three wells. So you had a very cheap entry for the Company and a very influential partner. What I liked subsequently, was that they diversified into the North Slope of Alaska and the North Slope is an area where huge discoveries have been made--Prudhoe Bay obviously comes into mind and Talisman and Petro- Canada have recently announced a “contingent” 300-500 million barrel discovery.
In my opinion, this underlines the management's statement that fields varying from 20 to 200 are not outlandish. It seemed to me that it was a look-alike for the North Sea in that a second generation of activity was starting and that TGE was in early. That analogy clearly has not been accepted by the market: the Company’s success at North Shore-1 was greeted with a so-what response.
Compare that with the way the market reacted to Oilexco's Huntington discovery. Subsequently, the success in testing the Jurassic at Huntington has more than justified the market activity, but it still remains that a discovery in the North Slope was treated as a non-event whereas the market has been conditioned to appreciate discoveries in the North Sea.
Dave: Now the North Slope can only be developed in the winter time.
Clive: Well that's right if we’re talking about exploration-it won’t apply to development drilling and, Dave, this is a problem that we are getting nowadays. We are going further a field to find interesting plays. Drilling in the North Sea is within reason a year round prospect, but who’s got the rigs--well Oilexco for one! Sure you can't drill exploratory wells all year round on the North Slope, but that kind of thinking would put nearly all northern drilling down, but there is a rig available and we'll be turning to the right this winter. I have seen reserve estimates of the North Shore-1 success of 10 to 20-30 million barrels --for the potential field that is. Giving oil here at $10 per barrel and the value to TGE runs from $0.50 to$1-$1.50 per share, but, they are participating in over 300,000 acres and can decently hope for more discoveries. As I said before, the area is highly petroliferous, the North Shore -1 success offset the Mobil Gwydyr Bay South discovery which tested 2263 barrels per day on a restricted choke.
Dave: So this coming winter could see a good move in the stock?
Clive: Entertain this as a thought (1) further evaluation of the North Shore-1 success indicating a larger structure than originally thought (2) a sidetrack at the Sak river location is successful and (3) another success, at Gwydyr South. Add to that that the “contingent discovery” might be brought into the main stream giving reflected glamour to the overall theatre. Looked at it that way, the Niger play is pure gravy!
Dave: What kind of odds do you give for success in Niger, having missed twice now?
Clive: It has to be wildcat odds. Do you think it should be one-in-three? Anyway that's all academic, because in my opinion you are getting it free at the current stock price.
Dave: What kind of odds are you looking at for the North Slope as well?
Clive: Maybe I'm pushing the analogy too hard, but a bit like the Oilexco tactics are being used. The North Shore-1 offset an earlier success and, hopefully the same is true of the West Gwydyr location. You go close to where there's been success and that lowers the odds significantly.
Going back briefly to the Laurel Valley duster, the interesting thing about that play that made you happier at taking the chance was that Oilexco departed from its basic approach and took a chance on a wildcat on a prospect which may not be completely dead from latest soundings.
Dave: What are your thoughts on oil and gas prices for the next while, Clive?
Clive: I've always tried to respond to the question of oil prices. When you asked me last time I said it would hit $80 before it hit $40 per barrel and I was sweating when it touched $49. I could say now that it will be at $100 before it hits $50 per barrel. Now that's being mealy mouthed and I think one should be bolder in one's forecasts because it's the elephant in the room. Basically, I'll make a point estimate and forecast $85 per barrel by the end of the year and if I am wrong I'll be on the low side.
Dave: Why so optimistic?
Clive: Why so pessimistic you mean. Who is going to meet the increased oil demand, given the strong growth estimates for this year, the oligopolistic position of OPEC, Non- Opec running hard to stay still and the continuing underinvestment in the oil industry from a world perspective?
Dave: You're not off the hook yet. What about you rushing in where angels fear to tread by recommending not only a diamond stock, but a play in Greenland, Hudson Resources? To be fair, it did run to over $2.00 per share.
Clive: Yes, well there's no end to my temerity. It has come off--badly. The euphoria that accompanied the announcement of the 2.4 carat diamond gave way to disappointment that carat grade looked low. But, and this is the important point, few would deny it's a bona fide play. Accept that, and it's hard not to consider it cheap compared to its peers.
Dave: Would you expect Hudson to repeat its upside run?
Clive: I think that's a very definite possibility, however, I am much more confident that buying at current levels will garner a good return as the company busies itself about its 2007 season.. I'm looking for a 50% move just based on field activity.
Dave: Why so confident?
Clive: They went to raise three million dollars and got six million. Consequently they have the ability to mount a much greater exploration effort than hitherto and, say what you like, we now know their hunting ground to be significantly diamondiferous.
Add to that they will be further evaluating the Garnet Lake discovery with on site, in house processing ability which will dramatically compress that tedious time between sampling and evaluation. Without that, March 08 would have been a reasonable timetable for results.
Dave: But, Greenland!
Clive: It's far easier to access than the current prejudice assumes and that's better appreciated in Europe. The political stability of the Government of Greenland (and Denmark) and their pragmatic approach to permitting has allowed Hudson's exploration activities to advance at a faster pace than other Canadian diamond projects.
Dave: What would be your top three picks at the moment?
Clive: Oh Boy! You always like to stretch me on the rack! I’ve just gone over the last battlefields and you don’t expect me to mention them – or abandon them maybe?
Dave: Yes, yes, yes, but…
Clive: Maybe this will help. I now hold more shares of Gulf Shores and no less shares of International Frontier than I held before the Laurel Valley well. I am buying TG World Energy and it’s easy to see that I took down $100,000 of the recent Hudson financing. I’ve already mentioned my liking of Oilexco. Apart from other considerations, if oil prices move up it will be a proxy for them, just as Ranger Oil was in previous oil markets. Bow Valley seems to be attractive as it gets the best of both worlds – the North Sea and the North Slope. Tusk Energy is worth a nod.
I would never say abandon selectivity, but, if I’m right about the short term future of oil prices, then there will be more toleration of mistakes by the market and those investors with appetite for risk may be treated with more than the usual kindness.
Dave: Thank you so much Clive!
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