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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth

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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (103168)	7/16/2007 12:51:52 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) of 173976

"One of the reasons staying might cause harm to America is because being an occupier on foreign soil will incite more opposition more attacks against us." Your premise is incorrect. An occupier is a country that is ruling the occupied country. That isn't our role in Iraq. We are there to support the Nationally elected government until it is strong enough to manage its own security. "That's not bigotry. I didn't say it was. You claimed that our presence in an Arab country causes more harm that good for America. That's bigotry. SA is a different situation for reasons I gave, which were not Arab racism but religious objections. You then attempted to claim that Iraq's holy regions made it similar but now seem to have dropped that claim. "It's a fact. And it's a reason why staying could do more harm than leaving." You have not substantiated the claim of could do more harm. You claim that our presence in Iraq could cause more radicals to be recruited. I agree. I gave you a long laundry list of things that threaten the US if we were to abandon Iraq before it is stable. The fact is radicals are being grown with or without the presence of the USA in Iraq and have been long before we were in Iraq. Whether there would be more or less without us in Iraq is up for debate,I believe there would be far more. And there is a very strong argument for that. However, either way it doesn't address the list I presented to you that represents devastation to the US if we were to abandon Iraq prematurely. Your avoidance of that obvious fact is telling. "Me pointing that out doesn't make me a bigot. Your using it as an argument against American presence on Arabian soil does. How do you feel about the millions of Arabs here on American soil? Why would it make a difference, because you are 'tolerating' them? An ad hominem argument is a fallacious argument. You could have stopped long ago. Projecting onto me, by whining when your argument doesn't accomplish what you wanted it to, doesn't help your case. It just makes you look whiny. I merely pointed out the 'fact' that you deviate from the reason chain when it doesn't bolster your transparent partisan position. Accusing me of bullying you is just another attempt at deviation.

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