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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth

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To: one_less who wrote (103170)	7/16/2007 1:41:24 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (2) of 173976

Your premise is incorrect. An occupier is a country that is ruling the occupied country. That isn't our role in Iraq. We are there to support the Nationally elected government until it is strong enough to manage its own security. Nonsense. We invaded, deposed Saddam, ran a protectorate, and then staged elections. This government has no credibility. And won't until we leave and it continues to exist. We are still an occupying force. No semantic gymnastics can change that which is reality on the ground in Iraq. You claimed that our presence in an Arab country causes more harm that good for America. That's bigotry. That's ridiculous on it's face. The fact is radicals are being grown with or without the presence of the USA in Iraq and have been long before we were in Iraq. Al Qaeda got going after the first Gulf War when we left a bunch of troops in SA. We were their nominal allies when the Mujahideen were fighting the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. They morphed into Al Qaeda and turn their sites on the U.S. in SA. Despite your protestations to the contrary, they will also find our occupation of Iraq inspiring. This is in fact a negative to staying. I have not proven the case that staying will do more harm than leaving, nor have i tried to. I have shown that it's a reasonable position that can be held for non-partisan reasons. How do you feel about the millions of Arabs here on American soil? Why would it make a difference, because you are 'tolerating' them? Surely you jest. I'm talking about a foreign military occupation and you respond with this? We welcome Russian immigrants and tourists to America. We would fight Russian troops invading America. Is that too fine a difference for you to appreciate? Maybe i'm just too much of a bigot not to see that they're the same thing. Accusing me of bullying you is just another attempt at deviation. I'm not accusing you of bullying, just of using fallacious ad hominem logic. SD

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