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Technology Stocks : Advanced Micro Devices - Moderated (AMD)
AMD 230.23-4.3%Nov 18 3:59 PM EST

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To: wbmw who wrote (238932)8/16/2007 3:24:11 PM
From: Joe NYCRead Replies (1) of 275872
 
wbmw,

Just to spell it out for everyone, Z-RAM in an existing design would most likely require:

- New cache cell design (at the very least!)


Of course

- Likely process tweaks or modifications

The claim is that it is minimal

- Reliability verification, additional parity or hardened latches may be required on an unproven design

That may be ongoing as we speak, in test chips. This is where the hang-up is currently, IMO.

- Performance simulation to determine best size and design parameters

That's not really a big deal, IMO. Caches have been around for decades, and the issues are pretty much settled. Additionally, L3 in Barcelona is a complete black box, its effects easily simulated. Well, easily compared to other challenges in core, memory controller, crossbar design.

...-- and quite possible necessitate additional steppings to iterate on the design and fix bugs on a technology that has not yet been proven in any AMD design before it.

First of all, I don't know the first thing about designing microprocessors, but it seems to me that a logical way to go about this is to build test modules (standalone, without processor) and fiddling with that. As I said, it is a black box, so the issuing requests / testing results and timing them, testing reliability should not be all that difficult to test.

This is, IMO, what AMD is doing currently, and it is kind of like inventing a wheel, since nobody has any experience with this technology, AMD is doing it first, which is why it is taking a while,

Joe
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