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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (240189)8/28/2007 11:36:50 PM
From: Lou Weed  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Re:- <<I keep saying that the Muslim Mideast considers suicide bombing of Jews to be totally Islamic>>

You said "everybody" considers suicide bombing to be totally islamic.....now its the "Muslim Mideast". Which one is it?!?

Now that you've spurred my curiosity I've gone and googled your fatwa request of a counter example against suicide bombing and I got these on my first hit.....

en.wikipedia.org

"In January of 2006, one of Shia Islam's highest ranking marja clerics, Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousof al-Sanei also decreed a fatwa against suicide bombing, declaring it as a "terrorist act"."

Here's another one......

fatwa-online.com

"Shaykh al-Islaam (Ibn Taymiyyah) said:

"Because this person has killed himself and has not benefited Islaam. So if he kills himself along with ten, or a hundred, or two hundred other people, then Islaam will not benefit by that, since the people will not accept Islaam, contrary to the story of the boy. Rather it will probably just make the enemy more determined, and this action will provoke malice and bitterness in his heart to such an extent that he may seek to wreak havoc upon the Muslims.

This is what is found from the practice of the Jews with the people of Palestine ­ so when one of the Palestinian blows himself up and kills six or seven people, then in retaliation they take sixty or more. So this does not produce any benefit for the Muslims, and does not benefit those amongst whose ranks explosives are detonated."


There's a bunch more that I quite frankly don't have the time or desire to plough through (Fatwas bore me!) but I'm sure you'll have some excuse to undermine each one.

Re:- <<The fight occurred when Jews wanted to have a country of their own, not live in Arab countries by Arab rules>>

If the Canadians came roaming across the border and took your nice Vermont home from you Nadine, what would you do?

This whole ME conflict is about LAND, no matter how much you try and kid yourself. Religion is a convenient subplot just as it was in Northern Ireland.
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