First, we are under no obligation to give the Arab world a veto over our foreign policy.
But you want a veto over their's.
We've never objected to their foreign policy. To invading Kuwait, yes. To blockading the straits of Hormuz, yes. To going nuclear in defiance of treaties they've signed, yes.
And its never dawned on you that they might not appreciate American arbitrariness?
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Second, we didn't force a reluctant UN to recognize partition. The entire Communist bloc supported it too.
So? The overseer of the Palestinian Mandate, the Brits, said it would not work.....they would know. After all, they had managed the mandate for 30-40 years.........they don't have to spend their precious oil money on raising a military.
The British had supported a partitian plan of their own and had dropped it due to Arab opposition. They even blockaded the entry of Jews seeking to escape Nazi-occupied Europe before and during WWII.
The UN General Assy vote was 33 to 13 for partitian.
Yes, after the US pushed it through......at that time, we had a lot of goodwill from the war and we used it to help get Israel established......even as the Brits told us it would be a mistake. Its too bad some times that we don't listen to people with good info.
Third, there was no real alternative except the driving our or killing of all Jews in Palestine.
Its true there was fighting between the Zionists and the Arabs but it was hardly a foregone conclusion that the Zionists would be driven out fo Palestine. That's your opinion and has little to do with reality or history.
Without the ability to defend themselves, the Jews would have all been killed or driven out. The Arabs drove all the Jews out of the Palestinian territories they occupied.
I guess you don't know about the Zionist terrorist groups like Irgun that blew up the Hotel David in Jerusalem in the 1940s. And how do you think Israel defeated the 4 Arab states that attacked it in 1948.....with smoke and mirrors?
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The govts of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the emirates, Syria, and Egypt participated in the war with us. Only Mauritania sided with Saddam. So yes. But if you're determined to bend over backward to accept only anti-American positions as legitimate, you won't see it that way.
You stated why we went over there......all I said was that the Arabs interpreted the US attack the same way you did. Obviously, that interpretation doesn't bother you but it bothered the Arabs a lot except for the Kuwaitis who are the least loved in the Arab world. Up above, you said you don't want the Arabs dictating US foreign policy but now you admit that we are dictating their foreign policy.
As I said, the govts of all but one Arab country sided with us during the Gulf war. You deny you adopt the most extremist anti-American position, yet you are proving my claim by accepting the view of Saddam that he had the right to annex Kuwait ...
I repeat.......I only agreed with your position.
and I expect you'd agree with anything else he wanted too given your tendency to adopt the positions of America's worst enemies.
You can't possibly know what all my positions are nor do you have much room to speak considering your elected leaders just refused to give American troops more R and R when they so badly need it.
The only thing you know about history is the US is at fault for everything.
Of course, that's not true. But what is true is that you think the US walks on water 24/7.
We invaded Iraq because we feared their nuclear ambitions and abilities (you can read the case for the war in Ken Pollack's book, The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq).
Come on....stop with the nonsense. We invaded Iraq because of a three letter word and the first letter is O.
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Having said that Brumar, unlike you, I can't sit here and make believe it didn't happen and say rah-rah-rah for the home team. Bush's behavior in Iraq goes against the principles and values that rule my life. Why should I amend those rules and principles because the president lives by a different set of rules and principles or a lack thereof? Huh? Why?
BDS and Blame-America-Firstism aren't principles and values.
You think Osama, al Qaida, and Ahmadinejad have valid greivances against the US and are merely defending against America's evil aggression.
You are full of it. You think by making such ridiculous accusations that you have some kind of moral authority over me. Well you don't......so stop making sh!t up. |
