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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: SARMAN who wrote (243616)10/1/2007 9:43:02 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
How the hell did we get to that topic than?

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Elroy, it was just an example. And I did not say the US was responsible.

Here's what you wrote:

The US pushes and prods the ME with no regards to the social or the culture of the ME. The prime example is the introduction of Europeans Jews into Palestine.

Reads to me like you are blaming the US for the introduction of European Jews into Palestine.

I guess you're referring to the culture and habit of the Iraqis to ruthlessly kill each other in order to be in charge of their fellow Iraqi?

Please tell us when the Iraqis were killing each other before the US invasion?

Under Saddam, Iraqis were killing other Iraqis in order to rule over them for ~30 years. You don't think 80% (Kurds + Shias) of Iraqis voluntarily lived under Saddam's leadership, do you? And the current crop of "insurgents" aren't killing Iraqis because of the US, they are killing innocent Iraqis because they want themselves to rule over other Iraqis, and not have Iraq's elected government rule. The result is the unpleasant carnage we read about in the papers, which is brought on by Iraqis, not coalition troops.

Or do you consider blowing up a line of 50 random Iraqi police recruits a reasonable way to fight US occupation? Does "Kill potential Iraqi police in order to resist foreign influence" make any sense to you? It doesn't to most of the world.

Yes the greatness in Dubai is because the locals were in control not the foreigners. i.e. it was not shoved down their throats.

Right, so all good things in Arabia are due to Arabs, and all bad things due to the outside boogeyman? If Dubai had been left without "foreign influence/protection", all of the UAE would have been swallowed up by Saudi Arabia and it would not exist. You gonna thank the foreigners for that, or would you prefer to have let the locals take care of themselves 30 years ago, which would have translated as the UAE locals ceasing to exist?
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