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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: SARMAN who wrote (243625)10/1/2007 11:00:16 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
You can not stand that the US did anything wrong.

I have no problems with saying the US has done things wrong. I think removing Saddam was a great idea, and the post-removal operation has been a huge cock up. Don't project your opinions on me, I can express my opinions fine myself.

You say, self determination with a US installed government.

The Iraqi government was selected by Iraqis. It's the most representative government the people of Iraq have ever had. Give me any time in Iraq's history when it had a more "self determined government" than it has now. I'm waiting, go ahead, when?

When will you get it through your little brains, that the US do not give a shit about what Iraqi do, live or die as long as the oil is flowing.

Agreed. But what does that have to do with Iraqis being responsible for the current situation in Iraq?

And no the Iraqis did not have a choice.

A choice in what? You're rambling and not making sense....If you are arguing with my point that the Iraqis had the choice to either live as normal peaceful civil humans or to go blow up a marketplace full of shoppers, you're wrong. They have that choice every day, as do you and I. Some of them choose to blow up a market full of shoppers. They CHOOSE to do so rather than live the life currently available to them. If that causes paid to Iraq, that is pain which they have brought on themselves in their choice to blow something up rather than build a business. The insurgents are choosing to kill, Sarman, they aren't being forced to kill other Iraqis, they are choosing to do so.

You don't agree that without outside influence the UAE would not exist at all? The entire country is a foreign creation - if left to their own devices the Saudis would have swallowed up all the UAE territory and oil years ago, and their would be no such thing as a Dubai.
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