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To: DMaA who wrote (223501)	10/11/2007 10:52:57 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) of 793559

I'm starting to become more interested in Community Colleges and Junior Colleges where they actually teach you something useful. When I went to college, we were required to have three summers of employment in a forestry field and to learn how to swim. We had two spring camps which lasted an entire quarter and exposed us to the living environment and to skills that we needed to become employed. That's where people who didn't really want to be foresters dropped out. I went to the sophomore camp. We lived in boxcars converted to bunkhouses which had a wood stove in the middle between sleeping and studying quarters for two people on each end. We had to get our own firewood. We had to do dishes in the mess hall. They did away with the Senior Camp before I went to it, so my Senior experience was a trip where we actually toured on-going forestry activities. Two weeks ago I attended the 41st reunion of my Forestry Class. Part of this was held at the school forest where we saw all the improvements that had been made. My old boxcar bunkhouse was still there, with a different stove. The cookhouse was still there. The faculty was proud of the two week Measurements Camp where they taught everything that we learned in an entire quarter, and about a half dozen other measurement topics in the natural resource field. The students had to take this course in the summer time, instead of getting a job. NOBODY from my class thought doing away with the Spring Camps was a good idea. The faculty explained that the Spring Camps became impossible when the entire university went to the Semester System. I personally think that is just a cop-out, and that a semester could be structured to include the entire experience we had if they really wanted to do it. Quite a few of the remarks from the old timers were that the current crop of forest managers managed from their desk without getting out in the field. They didn't know what was going on out there. I started to see this in the last years of my career. This is tragic, in my opinion.

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